BN66 - Court of Appeal and beyond

[BarneyCool]

If we are all in this together we should all turn up the same..... dress to be chosen by vote !!!

It has to be donkeys! I'll only do the front end though.

[moira under the stairs]

It has to be donkeys! I'll only do the front end though.

I would have to be front end also as I refuse to bend over for these b'strds

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Is it HMRC or MP / Steed / KPMG or PWC.Iread earlier that MP put forward cases for the tax tribunal (that never was) .
OIG

There's also deGraaf and probably other promoters we don't know about.

I'm not quite sure how this works but I imagine test cases would be agreed between the promoters and HMRC.

Btw, HMRC has already made contact with some promoters.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Regarding the earlier PDF snippets.

If anyone wants to read the entire documents email me at

donkeyrhubarb AT rocketmail.com

[Dieselpower]

Dress Code

It has to be donkeys! I'll only do the front end though.

Well if we are going as chickens, HMRC could go as cocks.

[ir35amnesia]

why don't you set yourself up another username and disclose the details of the suomoto settlement .............as a friend
oig

i would sit and negotiate with hmrc and use this information to your advantage but i would never disclose the detail to a third party because this could allow hmrc to cancel/re-visit the deal.

And contractors involved in both suo motu & other schemes should think twice before talking about suo.

[Donnie Darko]

And contractors involved in both suo motu & other schemes should think twice before talking about suo.

Why all the cloak and dagger? I thought Suo Motu and Montpelier schemes were identical?

[OnYourBikeGB]

i would sit and negotiate with hmrc and use this information to your advantage but i would never disclose the detail to a third party because this could allow hmrc to cancel/re-visit the deal.

And contractors involved in both suo motu & other schemes should think twice before talking about suo.

Well, stating a fact, whatever the deal was, and we've probably worked it out, your clients have ended up in a better position than we have - assuming no last minute reprieve.

In your dealings with HMRC did you ever find out why this scheme in particular has been targeted for such an extreme action? It's always puzzled me why go after this scheme in this way?

[Toocan]

i would sit and negotiate with hmrc and use this information to your advantage but i would never disclose the detail to a third party because this could allow hmrc to cancel/re-visit the deal.

And contractors involved in both suo motu & other schemes should think twice before talking about suo.

That is complete rubbish - it was a contracted settlement - neither side can reopen it unless there is fraud involved. Was there fraud involved?

[Toocan]

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'or must have intended' what the f*** does that mean?!

It's obvious that it's NOT what they intended. Look at the Hansard entry.

HMRC knew that the court could not look at Hansard without special permission. HMRC are putting words into Parliaments mouth.

This is why we must write to our MPs - s.858 did not apply prior to the change made by s.58. HMRC really are playing with time when they claim that it did apply as it only applies AFTER the s.58 retrospection.

HMRC have played Parliament for fools - and they don't even know it!

Right now, HMRC feel they have got away with it. Without a massive effort by all involved, that will turn out to be true.