BN66 - Court of Appeal and beyond

[Fog]

John Redwood

A couple of years ago someone off the forum went to see their local MP John Redwood about BN66. He had served as a Minister in the 1980's Tory government. They mentioned about the misleading of Parliament aspect and he said it happens all the time, it's par for the course. As you say, duplicity to some extent is the normal business of government.

Is it time I went back to see him do you think? I always think they fob you off with a 'it's in a process' type response so I haven't bothered.... Might be time soon ....

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Is it time I went back to see him do you think? I always think they fob you off with a 'it's in a process' type response so I haven't bothered.... Might be time soon ....

Even if he was willing to help, there's very little MPs can do while this is in the hands of the courts.

[BrilloPad]

Even if he was willing to help, there's very little MPs can do while this is in the hands of the courts.

Well they could change the law removing the retrospective nature of the legislation? It would send a powerful signal that the UK is open for business and that there will be fair treatment.

[ringodingo]

I'm a new boy

This is my first post, but I have been following this thread for quite a long time.

I joined the scheme in 2003 and continued in the scheme until 2008. I wasn't a BIG earner, around £45.000 each year. I didn't join the scheme to save money, paying MP 10% and paying myself salary of £20.000, wasn't a saving of going through a Ltd. Company even allowing for IR35. I joined the scheme because it seemed a simple way to pay myself a reasonable salary, end the need for running a Ltd. Company, paying dividends keeping books and doing yearly accounts via an accountant.

I was an I.T. consultant with very old main frame skills for about ten years, and stayed contracting this long because the majority of companies requiring my skills didn't want permies. So I worked for 10 years with no holiday pay, no sick pay, no pension contributions from the employing company, no redundancy pay and once I couldn't find any more work I didn't qualify for any out of work benefits.

If we lose our appeal I will be made to pay an extra £45,000 in tax, nic and interest, as if I was working as a permie all the time, without the means of claiming any of the benefits I missed out on, as above.

Are there many more people in the same position as myself or were the majority of people in the scheme a lot higher earners?

[centurian]

Even if he said he was willing to help, there's very little MPs will actually be prepared to do in the current 'hang tax avoiders' climate

FTFY

As BP said - they could just change the law again - but they won't...

[DonkeyRhubarb]

As BP said - they could just change the law again - but they won't...

As one of my old college lecturers used to say "they wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire".

Our only chance is with the courts.

[moira under the stairs]

As one of my old college lecturers used to say "they wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire".

Our only chance is with the courts.

Sorry to be a pessimist but that chance seems to be looking very slim indeed.... although my optimistic side is of course wishing the opposite...

[Disgusted of Coventry]

Blimey - is this true?

... It's also worth remembering that any judgment concerning convention rights applies to all countries who have signed up, not just the country where the judgment was handed down.

There would be nothing stopping the tax authorities in say Germany or France citing "Huitson -v- HMRC" to justify retrospective legislation.

Just found this from earlier in the thread. Is this correct?

If it is, then it sounds like a pretty formidable argument.

[BrilloPad]

Sorry to be a pessimist but that chance seems to be looking very slim indeed.... although my optimistic side is of course wishing the opposite...

We are all entitled to our own opinion. But I am very hopeful. The higher this goes the less chance of political interference there is. The only reason it has got this far is HMRC are lying cheating scum. I hope there is a heaven and hell because you know who is going to end up being rogered by the devil with a red hot poker for all eternity.

[BrilloPad]

This is my first post, but I have been following this thread for quite a long time.
Are there many more people in the same position as myself or were the majority of people in the scheme a lot higher earners?

Welcome to the thread and thanks for posting

I think the thing that concerns most people here is not how much they owe but their ability to pay it. It is estimated at least 10% will go bankrupt.

However keep you chin up - quite a few of us are sure that if we all stick behind Montpelier we will get through this - then there will be a massive party. I am going to hold it in my back garden and there will be a massive bonfire. Guess whose effigy is going to be on top?