BN66 - Court of Appeal and beyond

[BrilloPad]

I am thinking of going to see my MP. He was on the labour finance committe that passed BN66. But when I have written to him in the past he has claimed to have no knowledge of what I am talking about.

I dont intend to confuse him with facts. Just tell him what is going to happen to him when we lose.

[seadog]

I completely agree, though, that it would be strategically unwise for Montpelier to broadcast its intentions.[/QUOTE]


There is no secret or confidentiality about the route forward.

The case has already been submittd to ECHR by KPMG. Whether PwC and Montpelier join in that case or launch their own is very much a procedural matter, but the case will eventually be heard by Strasbourg.

HMRC have indicated that the legal route is now at an end which is not entirely correct. The matter must now go to the tax courts before HMRC can enforce collection.

The route of the tribunal is First tier, then Upper tier, followed by a possible further judicial review which could all take a considerable time.

So the future is prettly much already mapped out. What no one can say is the timescale, but judging by the slow pace of the courts system it is unlikly to end in 2012.

[TalkingCheese]

Goals for change

I know this is wishful thinking but just trying to get some goals clear in my head. In order of preference we would like to:

1/ Remove the retrospective element of BN66/S58
2/ If that was not possible then I would like to rearrange my tax affairs retrospectively (e.g. put more money into a pension)
3/ Given the retro nature HMRC should waive the interest, at least pre March 2008

I know these are optimistic goals given where we are at but when we talk to MPs etc do these sound like reasonable goals ? Are there more ?

[screwthis]

Meanwhile in other news....

Ken Livingstone: I am not a tax dodger - Telegraph

Ken Livingstone is a

Non payer of
Taxes

Mod snip: rules is rules...

[BrilloPad]

There is no secret or confidentiality about the route forward.

The case has already been submittd to ECHR by KPMG. Whether PwC and Montpelier join in that case or launch their own is very much a procedural matter, but the case will eventually be heard by Strasbourg.

HMRC have indicated that the legal route is now at an end which is not entirely correct. The matter must now go to the tax courts before HMRC can enforce collection.

The route of the tribunal is First tier, then Upper tier, followed by a possible further judicial review which could all take a considerable time.

So the future is prettly much already mapped out. What no one can say is the timescale, but judging by the slow pace of the courts system it is unlikly to end in 2012.

Many thanks for that seadog! Gives me hope that we have a bit of time. Maybe long enough for Europe to come to our rescue? I still think Europe has a good chance of success.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I know this is wishful thinking but just trying to get some goals clear in my head. In order of preference we would like to:

1/ Remove the retrospective element of BN66/S58
2/ If that was not possible then I would like to rearrange my tax affairs retrospectively (e.g. put more money into a pension)
3/ Given the retro nature HMRC should waive the interest, at least pre March 2008

I know these are optimistic goals given where we are at but when we talk to MPs etc do these sound like reasonable goals ? Are there more ?

Personally I would swap 2 and 3. The problem with 2 is that it would require a special dispensation in the pension rules which I think is a non-starter.

HMRC say there is no discretion on interest, yet as we all know they have waived this before.

You could ask for the same payment terms as these folks:
The Suo Motu deal

They paid a discounted rate of tax, no additional Class 4 NIC and no interest.

[SantaClaus]

Ken Livingstone is a

Non payer of
Taxes

Mod snip: rules is rules...

And just to get everyone annoyed even more...

HMRC defends its treatment of its own IT and HR bosses as limited company contractors

Hope admin don't mind me posting an article from a rival, but this says it all really. HMRC are happy for their staff to use tax avoidance methods. It's just the general public they have a problem with.

[BrilloPad]

Hope admin don't mind me posting an article from a rival

hardly a rival. The odd good article there. But alot of repitition.

[SantaClaus]

hardly a rival. The odd good article there. But alot of repitition.

[screwthis]

Ken Livingstone is a

Non payer of
Taxes

Mod snip: rules is rules...