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Help - The umbrella i work through is not paying me and has closed down !

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    #11
    Tract Management Ltd.

    The sad situation from Friday is affecting a lot of people. Here are some home truths... my best advice is to kiss the money goodbye. Here are the clues;

    1) The letter is dated the 14th July, a day before the FX transfer.
    2)The supplier Worldwide IT supposedly went out of business on the 11th July.
    3) A notice was lodged with Companies house for resignation of the Company Secretary (whose duties are finances) on the 12th July.
    4) The letter goes to great lengths to explain the tax situation and point out what staff are liable for etc.
    5) The letter is a photocopy and a bad one at that
    6) They have been closing this down for weeks because documents to companies house take 14days to process.
    7) They have not left any contact details and there is no indication where the records are.
    8) Last and most importantly - is there any letters from the Liquidation company??

    Theories are;

    1) They have gone bust by putting the money in a bad short term cash investment.
    2) They are being investigated by the Inland Revenue.
    3) They have, after 6 years managed to collect enough cash to do a runner and set themselves up. Books on companies house show they were stashing cash for contractors of £35,500 in the first year. Last year they registered cash assets on the books of £350, 000. (suspect this is a percentage only ie all of the monthly wages and the rest was offshore).

    Make your own summation, but the operative word here is 'scheme' and highly doubtful it's legal. Advice?? Forget about it and move on. If you try to find these people or report them, it will open the books up to the tax office and other authorities, not a situation you really want for yourself or everyone else on the books.

    Last note - Check with your agent and see if they have CHAP'd the money to Tract yet. If not or if they have just done it in the past 24hrs then you MIGHT have a chance of them reversing the payment. Chances are if you work in a large bank/company the invoice would have gone a week ago!

    Take care

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      #12
      Does look indeed dodgy as a 9 bob note. I suppose you takes your money and takes your chances. Personally wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

      On the plus side it does look like they've done a runner not closed down. So tell your agy under no circumstances to pay them. At worst your client gets a few weeks resource for free which they may decided to give to you.

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        #13
        The problem is the agency legally owes them money, even if they haven't paid it yet. They can't just not pay because the umbrella has gone bust and pay you via some other method instead. It all needs to go through the proper channels, which is the administrators. If you're very lucky, you might get a share of whatever is left over many months down the line.

        But make sure starting tomorrow you're on a new contract with a new umbrella (or Ltd.).

        I guess few people ever consider the possibility of an umbrella going bust.
        Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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          #14
          HELPP

          Guys I have been affected by this as well/..
          I even went to their listed Slough office on saturday but they were not even listed on the companies in the building
          I will ring the reception tommorrow and try to get any contact details if I can
          I am considering legal actions and have no idea against who ??
          do any of you have anyone's contact details or know who this Basra guy is ??
          I think it will help if we get our heads together so pleaseee get in touch with me so we can try and catch these guys and get atleast something back

          Karun

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            #15
            Were Tract one of those dodgy offshore providers?

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              #16
              Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
              Were Tract one of those dodgy offshore providers?
              I can't remember but their website was utter crap. Have a look at the link I posted and you can see they got a slating there. Really poor website didn't exactly give you good vibes.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                The problem is the agency legally owes them money, even if they haven't paid it yet. They can't just not pay because the umbrella has gone bust and pay you via some other method instead. It all needs to go through the proper channels, which is the administrators. If you're very lucky, you might get a share of whatever is left over many months down the line.

                Yes but if they've done a runner they are unlikely to come looking for the cash in the courts.

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                  #18
                  I appreciate in this instance it is too late for many and I am sorry for you guys, but if any umbrella company does not pay you the same day it receives your money or the very next day if the money arrives after noon you should be very wary !!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by karun2011 View Post
                    I even went to their listed Slough office on saturday but they were not even listed on the companies in the building
                    I will ring the reception tommorrow and try to get any contact details if I can...
                    The building is a serviced office (I used to work for another company with an office there). As well as offices they also offer a "virtual office", ie they just answer the phone and pretend to be the company, so Tract may not even have been physically located there. They should have some contact details though...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by javadude View Post
                      The building is a serviced office (I used to work for another company with an office there). As well as offices they also offer a "virtual office", ie they just answer the phone and pretend to be the company, so Tract may not even have been physically located there. They should have some contact details though...
                      No
                      I tried calling the reception and they keep telling me that the office was vacated on thursday night and they weren't aware of this.

                      She said to me the office was registered under a <mod sniP>
                      I am gonna try and locate her.
                      Again, anyone else who has been affected by this, please get in touch (pm me) and we can put our heads together hopefully for some sort of solution

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