PCG and IR35

[Ruprect]

It's a bit like America and Al Qaedda, feign hatred and opposition, however actually need the bogeyman to justify policies (charges) and therefore existence. Discuss

[Mr.Whippy]

It's a bit like America and Al Qaedda, feign hatred and opposition, however actually need the bogeyman to justify policies (charges) and therefore existence. Discuss

+1... far too many people making a (very) decent living out of IR35 and the fear of IR35 for them to want it to vanish completely imo.

[malvolio]

+1... far too many people making a (very) decent living out of IR35 and the fear of IR35 for them to want it to vanish completely imo.

Very true, although that doesn't include PCG.

For the record, PCG still fights for the total abolition of IR35 and the full recognition of the freelance worker. The aim of the current exercise is to limit IR35 only to those to whom it really applies - which may, of course, turn out to be nobody, although I doubt it - and to act as a deterrent to those tempted to incorporate as an F2M since their lovely tax-avoiding EBTs have been closed down. If PCG can get the typical jobbing contractor out of scope, I see that as a pretty good interim achievment.

[crack_ho]

Very true, although that doesn't include PCG.

For the record, PCG still fights for the total abolition of IR35

Message from the President

Please understand that no political party is currently committed to the repeal of IR35 and some demands such as “immediate abolition” or “make HMRC pay penalties for failed investigations” simply will not be met. Asking for them would just make us look foolish.

[malvolio]

And your point is?

I don't see that the two statements are contradictory in any way. Chris is talking about where we are now, not where we mean to be eventually.

More to the point, that quote is lifted directly from an internal discussion on the PCG fora which, as I'm sure you know, is a breach of their Ts&Cs.

Ignore me - it's in the newsletter that came out today. Sorry...

[DonkeyRhubarb]

The PCG is a "not for profit" organisation, which makes them very different to all the commercial outfits who've benefited from IR35.

I don't believe they are self-serving in the way that has been suggested.

[v8gaz]

Message from the President

Chris is the Chairman, elected from the membership. He's also a working BoS contractor. He's as keen to get IR35 sorted as any of us.

[Mr.Whippy]

Very true, although that doesn't include PCG.

My comment wasn't necessarily aimed toward the PCG, it just happened to be the topic of the thread.

What I was getting at is it's the IR35 contract reviewers & tax investigation insurers who have the most to lose if it was abolished and they probably aren't very keen on that happening.

[malvolio]

My comment wasn't necessarily aimed toward the PCG, it just happened to be the topic of the thread.

What I was getting at is it's the IR35 contract reviewers & tax investigation insurers who have the most to lose if it was abolished and they probably aren't very keen on that happening.

Fair enough, but there's a few on here think PCG has some kind of vested interest in keeping IR35 alive, so some of us who know better get a little over-defensive