IR35 stays...

[malvolio]

Don't get me wrong, the PCG has been fantastic for UK contractors. My big concern is what they are, and what they represent as a group now, compared to 18 months ago.

Exactly the same, actually. I am one of many who would be up in arms if they were anything different. The aim remains the removal of IR35 and nothing has changed that resolve.

Don't ever forget, everyone in the PCG including the Board is a freelance contractor, we're all on the same side.

[Fred Bloggs]

All reasonable points, but my beef is simply that the PCG make out that they represent all contractors. They don't. They represent a tiny minority. I have never agreed with the PCG policies versus IR35 and I doubt I will in the future.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

A couple of points.

1) Just because the Govt said it wouldn't get rid of ir35 because it feared a rush to incorporate, doesn't mean they're happy with the number of people who are already incorporated. Don't assume they accept the status quo.

2) If the Govt crackdown on avoidance schemes, especially the proposed "cash flow" measure, acts an effective deterrant, then where are the thousands of users going to go? Could there be a rush to re-incorporate?

I'm no longer contracting but I have this feeling that it won't be that long before you need the PCG again.

I leave you with one final thought.

I'm sure HMRC would be glad to see the back of the PCG, and that's all you need to know really.

[BillHicksRIP]

So for someone who has not IR35 insurance, time to pony up the dough?

[malvolio]

So for someone who has not IR35 insurance, time to pony up the dough?

Join the PCG anyway, it's not exactly expensive. The more members they have the louder they speak. And it's not all about IR35 either...

[malvolio]

This is an interesting read, incidentally. Explains it better then I do.

IR35 – let me tell you where I am. Chris Bryce, PCG Chairman « Inside PCG

[Epiphone]

Thing is, would you rather the PCG was closely involved in framing the rules for better and more focused administration or standing over there shouting from the sidelines? I know which I prefer...

If the PCG communicate with the Government in the same manner as that blog post this morning it's no wonder it's been 12 years and IR35 is still as strong as ever.

[malvolio]

If the PCG communicate with the Government in the same manner as that blog post this morning it's no wonder it's been 12 years and IR35 is still as strong as ever.

Don't be silly. That was written for contractors.

[Epiphone]

Don't be silly. That was written for contractors.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Don't like to depress anyone but I read through the OTS proposal to the Government earlier and one of the ideas they proposed was a simple business test which, if you passed, would guarantee your IR35 status. The proposed criteria were how many clients you have and how many staff - it doesn't take much to go from here to one man Ltd companies being inside IR35 by default if they only have one client at a time.