Not getting paid....heyalp!

[NotAllThere]

AIUI, the debt is owed to the brolly, not you. They're the one who should have a dunning process, up to and including legal action.

[northernladuk]

I have given you a reasonable opportunity to resolve my complaints regarding payment of invoices and despite this, invoices remain outstanding.
I have now been left with no alternative but to seek legal redress through the courts.
Unless this matter is satisfactorily resolved within the next 7 days I will initiate legal proceedings and seek advice for additional redress without further notice.

This sounds more like one of those things you would threaten a service desk with or something. There has to be a better way to word this. THey are going to just laugh at this.

Would appreciate any advice regarding how I am exposing myself while working under a contract currently in breach.

A) Your contract is NOT in breach. Being paid late is not a breach. In extreme circumstances it could be argued but not for the odd late payment.

B) You might want to as MF or some of the General crowed. They probably have more experiece exposing themselves

[TheFaQQer]

B) You might want to as MF or some of the General crowed. They probably have more experiece exposing themselves

Like the cock crowed three times?

[Wanderer]

Nine grands worth of invoices not paid for last 4 weeks.

OK well thanks everyone for advice, I have emailed everyone kicking up a stink, I suppose I have to put up with whatever they decide and then consider alternatives for my next contract.

Have a look at this calculator and see how much money you are paying out in tax that you could legally avoid if you went with a LTD company...

[Support Monkey]

Ok, please don't shout at me, I want to know what to do now not how stupid I clearly am.

your not being stupid its just people get very confused when they have a umbrella-Agency-Client

when your umbrella they have the contract with the agency who in turn have the contract with the client, you are getting paye from the umbrella so your an employee of their even though they will have clauses stating they will not pay until they get the money, it should be them that chase the agent but they never do.

Umbrella companies do not do anything you cannot do yourself when limited so take them out of equation altogether, yes going limited is scarry and there is little more paperwork but if you go via one of the recommended specialist accountants (Nixon Williams, SJD) its pretty straight forward and you have more control over your money and you earn more, so unless your on a very poor rate go limited

[prozak]

Nine grands worth of invoices not paid for last 4 weeks.

OK well thanks everyone for advice, I have emailed everyone kicking up a stink, I suppose I have to put up with whatever they decide and then consider alternatives for my next contract.

Eh?

Oh jeez. Relax a bit already.

I've had loads of times where end client has missed the invoice deadline and the monthly payment doesn't go through until the next month.

4 weeks is nothing.

[Big Bird]

Umbrella not at fault

My understanding is that umbrella doesn't pay you until they get your pay from the supplier. In your case it is the supplier that hasn't paid the umbrella so you have to go after the supplier. If you are a valuable staff to the client, mention this to your boss. They will be afraid of losing you or you not being able to perform your best, and a call from them to the supplier is the best approach.

[cojak]

My understanding is that umbrella doesn't pay you until they get your pay from the supplier. In your case it is the supplier that hasn't paid the umbrella so you have to go after the supplier. If you are a valuable staff to the client, mention this to your boss. They will be afraid of losing you or you not being able to perform your best, and a call from them to the supplier is the best approach.

No, this is not the case.

You are bound to your umbrella company because it is your employer. Your employer pays you, while you should explain it to the end-client because you may have to withdraw your labour, you don't go after their customers (the agent).

Start debt recovery procedures (look up dunning) against the Umbrella company.

[Big Bird]

No, this is not the case.

You are bound to your umbrella company because it is your employer. Your employer pays you, while you should explain it to the end-client because you may have to withdraw your labour, you don't go after their customers (the agent).

Start debt recovery procedures (look up dunning) against the Umbrella company.

My employment contract with OrangeGenie states that I would not get paid until they get paid. Which company do you deal with?

[cojak]

My employment contract with OrangeGenie states that I would not get paid until they get paid. Which company do you deal with?

Excuse me?!?
You mean this OrangeGenie??
http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...-invoices.html

You were giving advice to a poster and now you're telling us that an unrelated umbrella to this thread who appears to be doing the same thing says in it's contract that it's not liable?

Who do you work for Big Bird?

Or are you getting paid by them on time it's just a coincidence that you're posting here?

As has been said before - you deal with (ie sue) the Umbrella.

(If that clause is true btw, it's a rubbish one and I'd start looking for another Umbrella if I were you...)