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Renogotiating a contract after first couple of weeks.

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    #11
    Hi all

    This was an interesting read. <snip>
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    Last edited by administrator; 7 March 2011, 16:29. Reason: link removed

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      #12
      Originally posted by steveweaver View Post
      Hi all

      This was an interesting read.
      It is. Lots of nice theory and possible scenarios in hypothetical situations. What is possible and what will fly are two totally different things...

      Little problem with your sitution though as it says....

      Check the contract
      If the contractor can terminate the contract on notice, then he or she may have some negotiating strength in their position already. “The contractor can choose to look elsewhere for a contract,” says Sinclair, “on the basis that if a new contract is found, the contractor would then be able to exercise his/her right of termination”.

      “If the contractor then finds another contract, they are in a strong position,” he continues. “They are able to ask the agent for an increase and, if refused, the contractor could give notice and move on to their new contract.”
      Remember that little issue of you not having a contract?
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        #13
        Originally posted by steveweaver View Post
        There was no contract the day I started period.

        Please advise.
        Oh yes there was. Even if you hadn't seen it, the one they sent is the one they were using. You haven't amended it, so it still stands. You are deemed to have accepted those Ts&Cs by starting work and charging for it. Contract law is very clear on the subject of "assumed contractual condition" and what constitutes acceptance of impllied contracts.

        Next time, don't start until you've signed. Hopefully, you now understand why that's important.
        Blog? What blog...?

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          #14
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post
          Oh yes there was. Even if you hadn't seen it, the one they sent is the one they were using. You haven't amended it, so it still stands. You are deemed to have accepted those Ts&Cs by starting work and charging for it. Contract law is very clear on the subject of "assumed contractual condition" and what constitutes acceptance of impllied contracts.

          Next time, don't start until you've signed. Hopefully, you now understand why that's important.
          Hi all

          The agent is coming to see me today to thrash things out. I will update you on what follows.

          Thanks again everyone, very good advice.

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            #15
            Originally posted by malvolio View Post
            Oh yes there was. Even if you hadn't seen it, the one they sent is the one they were using. You haven't amended it, so it still stands. You are deemed to have accepted those Ts&Cs by starting work and charging for it. Contract law is very clear on the subject of "assumed contractual condition" and what constitutes acceptance of impllied contracts.

            Next time, don't start until you've signed. Hopefully, you now understand why that's important.
            If you are in negotiation which one is taken as the assumed contract? For example, if the agent sends you one and you amend it, send it back with say a substitution clause in that was missing and then you start which one is in effect? If the agent has recieved the contract and has not mailed you back refusing the addition can that one be the assumed one or is it always the one you are offered by the agent?
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              #16
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              If you are in negotiation which one is taken as the assumed contract? For example, if the agent sends you one and you amend it, send it back with say a substitution clause in that was missing and then you start which one is in effect? If the agent has recieved the contract and has not mailed you back refusing the addition can that one be the assumed one or is it always the one you are offered by the agent?
              It's the last one on the table, i.e. the last one submitted by either side prior to you starting work. Of course, proving the other side has seen your amended version may take a little work.
              Blog? What blog...?

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                It is. Lots of nice theory and possible scenarios in hypothetical situations. What is possible and what will fly are two totally different things...

                Little problem with your sitution though as it says....



                Remember that little issue of you not having a contract?
                Well it did fly and I have a raise from the agent side just awaiting confirmation from the client side. Those who dont ask dont get.

                Thanks again everyone.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by steveweaver View Post
                  Well it did fly and I have a raise from the agent side just awaiting confirmation from the client side. Those who dont ask dont get.

                  Thanks again everyone.
                  Hi Steve.

                  I hope Steve Weaver isnt your 'real' name as the agents who regularly read these boards may, having read this thread, mark you down as a complete and utter blert to be avoided!

                  Good luck for the future!
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                    It's the last one on the table, i.e. the last one submitted by either side prior to you starting work. Of course, proving the other side has seen your amended version may take a little work.
                    It helps to remember that Royal Mail and the Post Office are neutral parties so sending a letter "Signed For" or better to ensure that it's highly likely it would have got to the agent before you started the contract would seriously help your case.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by steveweaver View Post
                      Well it did fly and I have a raise from the agent side just awaiting confirmation from the client side. Those who dont ask dont get.

                      Thanks again everyone.
                      **** me your agent is stupid.
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