BN66 - Round 2 (Court of Appeal)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

FAQ

I have been getting quite a few questions by email and thought this might be helpful.

1. When are we likely to get a decision from the CoA?
December or January.

2. If we lose, will HMRC enforce collection?
No way of knowing but it’s possible.

3. What happens if they do try to collect?
Montpelier have a back-up plan involving the Tax Courts (Tribunal).

4. Where would we go next with the main case?
UK Supreme Court or possibly European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR).

5. What about PwC?
Since their argument concerns the EU Treaty (not human rights) their case could get referred by the CoA to the European Court of Justice (ECJ).

[Donnie Darko]

I've just been told that HMRC read this forum.

Well this is just for you, you ******* bastards.

If we lose the case I will lose everything - the house, the wife, the kids.

Does that float your boat you sadistic *****?

Well enjoy it while you can.

A man who has already lost everything has nothing left to lose.

[BolshieBastard]

Jesus come on guys get real.

This was an offshore tax avoidance scheme we joined not a ******* pension from Norwich Union.

What were you thinking that they were covered by the FSA or something?

And before anyone balls me out I joined in 2005 and wasn't told it was being investigated either.

So you feel you were misled? Tough, like me, just get over it.

I was told by MTM not to bother getting a CTD when hmrc started investigating the scheme as they (MTM) were convinced they'd win. I was also told MTM were delighted it was taking so long to resolve the investigation as they were and I quote 'making more money out of it' unquote.

When I met gittins in the early days of the scheme myself and others were told it was a legal solution to iR35. I dont recall being told it was a tax avoidance vehicle as you state. We were told the likes of Richard Branson and other wealthy people used the same 'type' of scheme I suspect to give the scheme some validity. (I should make clear here it was not claimed RB used the scheme administered by MTM.)

Im sorry but I dont buy into this 'we were buying into a tax avoidance scheme' crap one bit. It was presented as anything but tax avoidance and in effect, just what your accountant would do only giving peace of mind (yeah, right) with regards to IR35.

[SantaClaus]

Just a reminder to everyone that this is a public forum and quotes from here have been used in court.

[smalldog]

Just a reminder to everyone that this is a public forum and quotes from here have been used in court.

Santa, I agree and am getting worried about the amount of dirty laundry being done in public view so close to the COA. Come on people think please, this isnt a private forum...

[Donnie Darko]

A post I did last night has been deleted.

I won't repeat what it said because someone obviously found it offensive. In future I will keep my deepest darko thoughts to myself.

I will just say this though.

There is only one group I hold responsible for jeopardizing my future and that's the sadistic c***s at HMRC!!!!!!!!

[smalldog]

A post I did last night has been deleted.

I won't repeat what it said because someone obviously found it offensive. In future I will keep my deepest darko thoughts to myself.

I will just say this though.

There is only one group I hold responsible for jeopardizing my future and that's the sadistic c***s at HMRC!!!!!!!!

go on Singh read that one out!! Can we play them at their own game, is it worth Elvin reading out some too to give it balance if they do it again, or do we shoot ourselves in the foot as being seen as stooping to their level?

[DonkeyRhubarb]

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go on Singh read that one out!! Can we play them at their own game, is it worth Elvin reading out some too to give it balance if they do it again, or do we shoot ourselves in the foot as being seen as stooping to their level?

I can't see the appeal court standing for any of this sort of nonsense. With both our appeal and PwC's case to be heard I'm sure they'll keep a tight reign on proceedings.

[Morlock]

There is only one group I hold responsible for jeopardizing my future and that's the sadistic c***s at HMRC!!!!!!!!

I think you're wrong. In my view, HMRC are just civil servants doing the jobs that they're paid for; responsibility for this fiasco lies with the politicians who drafted and voted for the retrospective legislation.

[Morlock]

Perhaps of Interest

Some media freelancers are facing criminal enquiries for making inflated expenses claims and for claiming debatable self-employment status:
http://www.taxation.co.uk/taxation/a...iminal-inquiry