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    my accountant?

    Hi all,
    New to this forum. I really appreciate the great posts and support here. I started my own ltd company and started my project (in IT) 2 weeks ago. We went to an accountant nearby and I don't think that he is the right person. Here is what happened when we met him a couple of days ago for the first time,

    He looked at the contract, literally flicked through pages in less than 5 mins and declared that IR35 will be a problem.

    He asked us a couple of questions, for example, "the right to do work at your own time and at your own pace". We tried to explain to him that when you are an IT contractor working on a project funded for say 3 months, you have to go and do the work in that time period, but you can't go on extending things at your own pace. You have to be at the client's place and do office hours for several reasons such as secured access to the data, to facilitate exchange of information between different groups and building security constraints. I told him that depending on the nature of work, the constraints could be different and so would the IR35 conditions be. He didn't listen to us, instead, compared this to say a plumber's work, which is a different case altogether, and used the same yardstick to judge our scenario and insisted that IR35 would be a problem for us and we should look for alternatives.

    Throughout the meeting he tried to sound intimidating as if we are doing something wrong and HMRC is going to catch us and kept on recommending some umbrella company scheme (I am sure he is a part of it). I really disliked the idea of the umbrella solution (some offshore based , you have no control over your hard earned own money).

    My policy is that if my work genuienly comes under IR35, then I would pay the tax fully cause that is fair enough. But if it doesn't then I have every right to keep my hard earned money in a fair way. I don't want to take any shortcuts and end up in a mess.

    What to look for in choosing an accountant for IT contractors? What role does an accountant play when an enquiry comes up? Does anyone have any recommendations for such accountants in Reading area?

    #2
    Search for Accountant threads on this forum. There are many discussing SJD Accountancy, Nixon Williams, Upton Accountants and many others.

    Get your contract reviewed by a professional to determine its IR35 status. Look at QDOSConsulting (www.qdosconsulting.com) or Bauer & Cottrell (http://www.bauerandcottrell.co.uk/)

    Don't get suckered into some offshore umbrella solution unless you are really convinced it works and its for you.

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      #3
      Why are you showing your contract to an accountant? Get an IR35 specialist to tell you if (on balance) you are in or out. Then tell the accountant by all means so they can offer you proper financial advice based on that...
      Older and ...well, just older!!

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        #4
        Even if you are inside IR35, you can still work through your LtdCo.

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          #5
          my EX-accountant?
          FTFY
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #6
            I would recommend looking for a 'Contractor's Accountant' as opposed to one that lives in your area. Most of them provide services through email and telephone as opposed to face to face meetings, thus saving your precious time.

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              #7
              For ordinary bread and butter things always found local accounts better but contract review probably needs some expertise.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #8
                Originally posted by Sally BFCA View Post
                I would recommend looking for a 'Contractor's Accountant' as opposed to one that lives in your area. Most of them provide services through email and telephone as opposed to face to face meetings, thus saving your precious time.
                You would, you're a 'Contractors Accountant'.

                Explain how a 'Contractors Accountant' differs from any other accountant providing advice to small business? Apart from providing a spreadsheet and advising 'low salary, high divvy' for tax efficiency?
                Older and ...well, just older!!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
                  You would, you're a 'Contractors Accountant'.

                  Explain how a 'Contractors Accountant' differs from any other accountant providing advice to small business? Apart from providing a spreadsheet and advising 'low salary, high divvy' for tax efficiency?
                  Well I am leaving my current local accountant in favour of one of the ones mentioned on here hoping they are more a 'Contractors Accountant' than my local one. In the year and a bit I had him I struggled with confidence that he was bought in to what I was doing. It felt like he was doing what he had to do at certain times rather than knowing what he was doing if that makes sense. Just didn't give me a good feeling at all. I know how bad they all can be but talking to my colleagues they didn't suffer this level of confidence issue from the established 'Contractor Accountant'.
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ratewhore View Post
                    You would, you're a 'Contractors Accountant'.

                    Explain how a 'Contractors Accountant' differs from any other accountant providing advice to small business? Apart from providing a spreadsheet and advising 'low salary, high divvy' for tax efficiency?
                    In my personal opinion, legislation, however it all boils down to personal choice.

                    The contracting industry is drowning in it, IR35, MSC, Income shifting for a start.

                    Many 'local' or 'high street' accountants do not have purely service companies as their clients, therefore are not wholly open to MSC rules for example.

                    It is a 'contractor' accountants vested interest to ENSURE that they are fully abreast of any changes in legislation as it has an impact on ALL of their clients. They should have expert knowledge of the industry....

                    ...and there are a whole heap of industries in which to have expert knowledge.

                    This is not to say that non-contractor accountants don't know their 'stuff';
                    BUT if a newbie contractor doesn't know the right questions to ask, how will they know if they have or haven't been advised accordingly?

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