Working + taxed in the Netherlands. Do I have to account for earnings in the UK?

**ASB** · 25 June 2009, 07:02

It depends on the basis of the UK/NL DTA. You will still (it would appear) be tax resident in the UK. My expectation is that you would need to add up your income as normal (including the dutch income). Work out the UK tax payable, deduct the dutch tax paid and hand over the difference. However it may be that the dutch income counts as exempt - it could be either.

Equally the dutch may - or may not be - interested in the UK income you still have.

**BlasterBates** · 25 June 2009, 07:19

If this employment income, then there is no additional tax to pay, but probably needs to be declared nethertheless. So expect no extra tax to pay on your NL income as a temp. employee. All types of income are treated differently under the DTA, so dividends are taxed by crediting tax paid in another country. Your UK dividends for example will be taxed twice.

This is quite tricky and tax authorities often get it wrong applying the wrong rule, so very important to have a good accountant in both jusridictions as I suspect you're tax resident in both countries.

**KentPhilip** · 25 June 2009, 22:03

Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post

If this employment income, then there is no additional tax to pay, but probably needs to be declared nethertheless. So expect no extra tax to pay on your NL income as a temp. employee. All types of income are treated differently under the DTA, so dividends are taxed by crediting tax paid in another country. Your UK dividends for example will be taxed twice.

This is quite tricky and tax authorities often get it wrong applying the wrong rule, so very important to have a good accountant in both jusridictions as I suspect you're tax resident in both countries.

The dutch don't know about the UK dividend. And I have not intention of telling them - it will be paid into my UK personal account from my UK based Ltd company, on money earned on work purely in the UK. So I don't see how it can be taxed double.
The question is: when I fill in my UK personal tax return at the end of the year, do I have to declare my dutch income, and if so will it affect the level of taxation on the dividend?

**pzz76077** · 25 June 2009, 22:57

I think that it depends where you are resident for tax purposes, where control of you company resides and what double taxation treaties are in place, how much tax you have paid in each jurisdiction and many other things, so would suggest that you find a tax advisor/accountant that knows the law in both countries.

PZZ

**vetran** · 28 June 2009, 21:20

Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post

The dutch don't know about the UK dividend. And I have not intention of telling them - it will be paid into my UK personal account from my UK based Ltd company, on money earned on work purely in the UK. So I don't see how it can be taxed double.
The question is: when I fill in my UK personal tax return at the end of the year, do I have to declare my dutch income, and if so will it affect the level of taxation on the dividend?

Translation = I would like the opportunity to share a cell with a gentleman called Bubba or Pieter-Bubba.

Get professional advice from someone who understands both tax systems.

**pzz76077** · 28 June 2009, 21:24

Bottom line:
somewhere in the world you are required to pay tax on your worldwide income.

Find a way to legally satisfy this requirement while paying as little as possible.

AFAIK, currently being resident in Romania requires the lowest payment in Europe - max 19% less expenses at the mo.

PZZ

**BlasterBates** · 29 June 2009, 10:38

Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post

The dutch don't know about the UK dividend. And I have not intention of telling them - it will be paid into my UK personal account from my UK based Ltd company, on money earned on work purely in the UK. So I don't see how it can be taxed double.
The question is: when I fill in my UK personal tax return at the end of the year, do I have to declare my dutch income, and if so will it affect the level of taxation on the dividend?

Yup you do, and if it is employment income it shouldn't be taxed, but will probably used to calculate tax rates on other income, but you'll need to demonstrate that it is, so you need sufficient documentation. Take advice from an accountant.

**KentPhilip** · 29 June 2009, 10:57

Originally posted by vetran View Post

Translation = I would like the opportunity to share a cell with a gentleman called Bubba or Pieter-Bubba.

Get professional advice from someone who understands both tax systems.

You know we have gotton rid of prejudice against blacks and gays. I think we should get rid of prejudice against prison occupants. Lets be Gaol friendly

**KentPhilip** · 30 June 2009, 08:32

Originally posted by kentphilip

The dutch don't know about the UK dividend. And I have not intention of telling them - it will be paid into my UK personal account from my UK based Ltd company, on money earned on work purely in the UK. So I don't see how it can be taxed double.
The question is: when I fill in my UK personal tax return at the end of the year, do I have to declare my dutch income, and if so will it affect the level of taxation on the dividend?.

Originally posted by vetran View Post

Translation = I would like the opportunity to share a cell with a gentleman called Bubba or Pieter-Bubba.

Get professional advice from someone who understands both tax systems.

Yes OK you're right. I've done some more research and I would have to declare my UK divi to the Netherlands authorities.
Sorry for appearing to be an arrogant pig

Working + taxed in the Netherlands. Do I have to account for earnings in the UK?