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Personal Tax Return penalty or not?

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    #11
    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    We'll see. Don't file and you get a £100 fine. If you owe £0, the fine still stands.
    I got fined £100 for missing my 05/06 tax return when I took a year out to go back to Uni.

    I owed £0, and I got my £100 fine back in the end plus about 37p interest.
    The cycle of life: born > learn > work > learn > dead.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Cheshire Cat View Post
      and if you have not received a demand/reminder to submit a personal return at all, you can't be fined? correct or not?
      Incorrect, onus on taxpayer to ask for a return if one is required (usually because income received not paye )

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        #13
        Originally posted by Archangel View Post
        Incorrect, onus on taxpayer to ask for a return if one is required (usually because income received not paye )
        ok, thanks for clarifying

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          #14
          Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
          We'll see. Don't file and you get a £100 fine. If you owe £0, the fine still stands.
          No it doesn't. The penalty is limited to 100% of the tax due. So, if you owe less £50, the max penalty is £50. If you £0, the max penalty is £0. If you are due a rebate, the max penalty is £0. Believe me, this is correct. I file about 400 tax returns every year.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Just1morethen View Post
            No it doesn't. The penalty is limited to 100% of the tax due. So, if you owe less £50, the max penalty is £50. If you £0, the max penalty is £0. If you are due a rebate, the max penalty is £0. Believe me, this is correct. I file about 400 tax returns every year.
            This is true, exactly what happened in my case.. and I only sorted this out less than 12 months ago after they came chasing me about it.
            The cycle of life: born > learn > work > learn > dead.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Cheshire Cat View Post
              and if you have not received a demand/reminder to submit a personal return at all, you can't be fined? correct or not?
              Not correct. It is your obligation to determine whether you should submit an SA return or not and do so if you do, regardless of whether HMRC decide to send you the forms or a reminder.
              "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                #17
                taken from Shout99 website

                Filing online
                As it stands at the moment, if your Self Assessment tax return is still outstanding, you must now file this online by January 31 to avoid being charged a penalty.

                You can still register to file your 2008 Self Assessment tax return online but as a security measure, HMRC needs to post an activation code to you. This is sent by first class post, but will not now reach before the deadline.

                If you file your Self Assessment tax return on paper or online after 31 January you will be liable to a penalty of up to £100. But if you pay all the tax you owe by January 31 2009 the penalty will be reduced to ‘nil’. However, the penalty is not reduced in the case of a partnership return.

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                  #18
                  And furthermore in the case of partnerships it is £100 per partner. There is no reduction in the case of a partnership return as the partnership return does not create a charge to tax. If you are late with your personal return there is a penalty and the penalty is £100, however, the amount of the penalty will be reduced to the amount unpaid as at 31 January - whatever the situation a late return attracts a penalty but the amount of the penalty could very well be £nil.

                  Bob

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