BN66 - Time to fight back (Chapter 3)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I remember way back they offered to drop IR35 if they got in power....Anybody know if thye still intend to do this?

After all, ir35 is the reason why we are all in this bloody mess. (thanks again labour)

That is different. It would win them a lot of votes.

Also, I bet it can be shown that IR35 has failed. Most people have just carried on drawing dividends as if it never happened. And it has spawned a proliferation of tax avoidance schemes which net the Exchequer zilch. The only real winners have been the tax avoidance promoters.

The Tories may not have realised this but they will now because I've just sent David Gauke (shadow treasury minister) a detailed report exposing all of this.

[Little'Old Me]

I have been watching this thread on behalf of one of my SA clients who appointed me his accountant when he left one of the schemes mentioned on this thread. So it has now become my responsibility to deal with this on his behalf.

I cannot say too much, but from consulting with other specialist tax advisers we are horrified and shocked at the retrospective nature of this...........

The House of Lords are currently changing some of their rules and stated that it would be wrong to apply it retrospectively.

It is unfortunate you were not Bankers, MP's or members of the House of Lords.

[ASB]

That is different. It would win them a lot of votes.

Also, I bet it can be shown that IR35 has failed. Most people have just carried on drawing dividends as if it never happened. And it has spawned a proliferation of tax avoidance schemes which net the Exchequer zilch. The only real winners have been the tax avoidance promoters.

The Tories may not have realised this but they will now because I've just sent David Gauke (shadow treasury minister) a detailed report exposing all of this.

IN 2001 they promised to repeal IR35 if they won the next election. I have this in writing somewhere if I recall correctly from David Heathcoat-Amory.

Subsequent to this (and they didn't win the relevant election) it's gone a bit quiet. Though sometime in 2007 John Redwood was advocating ity's repeal. I don't think it is currently a manifesto commitment.

Can't currently get to the tory website to see what it currently says, though I'm pretty sure it had disappeared at the last election.

[KiwiGuy]

just had a rough night with the missus. she came off an evening shift, knackered, and we started talking about the situation, and about
the likelihood that we will be bankrupted. she cant get her head round it, something I did 6 years ago coming back to hurt us like this. she kept saying I'm not going to go there, we'll pay our due whatever... but me saying, we may have no choice, its isnt up to me... if we cant pay they'll bankrupt me anyway,,,

these people really are scum, dont they understand its real people they are hurting, just to cover up their own bloody mistakes. I f**ing hate them.

she doesnt deserve this

sorry... bit p****ed

yes im the same, hold in there mate, they will put me and my 6 week old out on the street

[KiwiGuy]

That is different. It would win them a lot of votes.

Also, I bet it can be shown that IR35 has failed. Most people have just carried on drawing dividends as if it never happened. And it has spawned a proliferation of tax avoidance schemes which net the Exchequer zilch. The only real winners have been the tax avoidance promoters.

The Tories may not have realised this but they will now because I've just sent David Gauke (shadow treasury minister) a detailed report exposing all of this.

In my letter to Ed, i actually stated that the only reason im on the scheme was because of a 2 year waste of time IR35 audit.....

[KiwiGuy]

a good mash

made me laugh

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politi...-200902271606/

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Please vote

in this Poll:

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...side-ir35.html

I want to get a feel for how many people on a higher rate (>£50k) are operating inside IR35.

The results may be a bit skewed because it's probably mostly people trying to get around IR35 who visit this site. But nevertheless it will give a feel for whether net tax receipts have benefitted much from IR35. My suspicion is NOT but we shall see.

[poppy01]

proud owner of new fat cat avatar

testing

[MuddyFunster]

The House of Lords are currently changing some of their rules and stated that it would be wrong to apply it retrospectively.

Interesting post. Do you know if they're applying their new found rule on restrospective legislation, retrospectively? I wonder if someone in the HoL is on the receiving end

[bombaycat]

hey mate, sorry to hear your woes, my marriage has collapsed due to all of the stress, HMRC really are C**ts....you're not alone.. all the best

mine too, but that was years ago - I think it's because I'm a commitment phobe that I am a contractor....