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BN66 - Time to fight back (Chapter 3)

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    Originally posted by anxious1 View Post
    I'm now thinking of a reply to urge him to be a bit more 'active' - anyone got any suggestions? I get the feeling there are some proficient letter writers out there!
    Email me. I have got a couple of letters you could send as a followup.

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      Originally posted by Fog View Post
      We'd jail break you DR....
      Thanks!!!

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        Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post
        Brillo, I remember them saying it in the original seminar in the Isle Of Man that I attended.

        But they did say they would fight it all the way to the high court.
        I had a one to one meeting with Watkin and our accountants in 2004

        I was assured that this scheme had worked since 1987 and although it was expected at some budget in the future that it might be closed down there was never any mention that they already had 500 plus under enquiry and certianly no warning about possible retrospection.

        In fact I had a newsletter from MontP after the 2006 budget saying that the scheme was still safe.

        I for one would not have continued using the scheme if either MontP or HMRC and brought the dispute to our attention.

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          Advice

          From what I can gather, less than half of the closure notices have been received. For those of you who have yet to receive your closure notices, read on so that you know what to expect:
          • Some of the “closure notices” that I received did not actually have the words “Closure Notice” on the piece of paper.
          • Some closure notices that were raised against me were never sent to me by the tax inspector. The inspector admitted that he had not sent them. But no apology was forthcoming.
          • Some closure notices include a calculation of tax, other just have number on them.
          • I have received statements of account for amounts of money that are completely unrelated to any tax “due” by me.
          • I have received “debt notices” as a first contact.
          • I have received threats of legal action – even though every letter received has been immediately responded to.
          • Calling the tax office doesn’t help, they even claimed the person that sent me a letter did not work there. “never heard of him”
          • Some of the statements received did not add up – really, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

          It is quite clear that HMRC’s computers have a great deal of difficulty dealing with what they are doing (they should get an independent IT consultant in to fix them). It is also clear the HMRC’s staff are unable to cope. They are clearly being told what to do by the likes of Brannigan, and I can only pity their position.

          Hopefully my remaining closure notices will arrive soon.

          If you have yet to receive yours, keep the above in mind – expect HMRC to really make a mess of it and be ready for them. Stay clam. I could go through HMRC’s service standard and demonstrate that they have failed on almost every point.

          Should I have to pay for HMRC’s incompetence? I don’t think so.
          There's an elephant wondering around here...

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            Originally posted by Toocan View Post
            From what I can gather, less than half of the closure notices have been received. For those of you who have yet to receive your closure notices, read on so that you know what to expect:
            • Some of the “closure notices” that I received did not actually have the words “Closure Notice” on the piece of paper.
            • Some closure notices that were raised against me were never sent to me by the tax inspector. The inspector admitted that he had not sent them. But no apology was forthcoming.
            • Some closure notices include a calculation of tax, other just have number on them.
            • I have received statements of account for amounts of money that are completely unrelated to any tax “due” by me.
            • I have received “debt notices” as a first contact.
            • I have received threats of legal action – even though every letter received has been immediately responded to.
            • Calling the tax office doesn’t help, they even claimed the person that sent me a letter did not work there. “never heard of him”
            • Some of the statements received did not add up – really, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

            It is quite clear that HMRC’s computers have a great deal of difficulty dealing with what they are doing (they should get an independent IT consultant in to fix them). It is also clear the HMRC’s staff are unable to cope. They are clearly being told what to do by the likes of Brannigan, and I can only pity their position.

            Hopefully my remaining closure notices will arrive soon.

            If you have yet to receive yours, keep the above in mind – expect HMRC to really make a mess of it and be ready for them. Stay clam. I could go through HMRC’s service standard and demonstrate that they have failed on almost every point.

            Should I have to pay for HMRC’s incompetence? I don’t think so.
            Toocan - this is very very useful info...especially to someone like me who has yet to receive his first CN and doesn't know what to expect...

            my biggest fear...verging on paranoia...is that when MrB does get around to sending my CN out that it gets lost in the post...Ive heard that CNs are going out via pathetic 2nd Class post...I'm a heavy user of Royal Mail and I know thru first hand experience how many letters/parcels RM lose - believe me, its a lot...

            as a result, I find myself logging onto to the Government Gateway on a weekly basis to check my account and ensure that I don't suddenly have £10000s owing...

            Donkey...is is worth putting a link to Toocan's post on the first page?

            (NB this thread is starting to look like Noah's ark..Donkey/Toocan/Seadog/etc...!)

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              Originally posted by TheGadgetMan View Post
              my biggest fear...verging on paranoia...is that when MrB does get around to sending my CN out that it gets lost in the post...Ive heard that CNs are going out via pathetic 2nd Class post...I'm a heavy user of Royal Mail and I know thru first hand experience how many letters/parcels RM lose - believe me, its a lot...
              If something did get lost in the post, HMRC would have to get a Summary Warrant to enforce collection - which would have to be served on you in person by a court officer. There would then be 14 days for you to deal with it. If someone turns up at your door without this happening - then they are acting outwith the law.

              While the letters/notices that HMRC send out are scary - and are designed to be - they do not have as much power as they'd like you to believe. The key is to take action and stay on their case. These guys are like school bully's - you know how to deal with them.


              Originally posted by TheGadgetMan View Post
              (NB this thread is starting to look like Noah's ark..Donkey/Toocan/Seadog/etc...!)
              We're simple creatures, but we will see justice done.
              There's an elephant wondering around here...

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                Originally posted by Fog View Post
                We'd jail break you DR....
                I know a top "terror suspect" QC...always there if you need! Not sure if he "covers donkeys" so to speak
                The Cat

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                  CNs at last

                  Originally posted by Toocan View Post
                  From what I can gather, less than half of the closure notices have been received. For those of you who have yet to receive your closure notices, read on so that you know what to expect:
                  [LIST][*]Some of the “closure notices” that I received did not actually have the words “Closure Notice” on the piece of paper.
                  ....

                  Should I have to pay for HMRC’s incompetence? I don’t think so.
                  I received my four years worth this morning and I owe a large amount,
                  not surprisingly!

                  If I get any of this nonsense or, worse, I'll be straight round to the
                  parliamentary ombudsmens office. I know for a fact the revenue LOVE
                  having these guy snooping round!

                  Just going to the post office to send the documents to MP now...

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                    Originally posted by PlaneSailing View Post
                    I received my four years worth this morning and I owe a large amount,
                    not surprisingly!

                    If I get any of this nonsense or, worse, I'll be straight round to the
                    parliamentary ombudsmens office. I know for a fact the revenue LOVE
                    having these guy snooping round!

                    Just going to the post office to send the documents to MP now...
                    Of course when you say "you owe" you mean that they want you to think that you owe....
                    Commiserations, I'm still waiting for my 3 years worth to thud onto the mat, can't be long now.
                    The Cat

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                      Oh, it’s not illegal then Mr Timms?

                      Oh, it’s not illegal then Mr Timms?

                      Mr. Austin Mitchell: To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many accountancy firms have been investigated for selling tax avoidance schemes in the last 12 months. [255257]

                      Mr. Timms: Selling a tax avoidance scheme is not in itself an offence or a breach of statutory obligations that might trigger an HMRC investigation. However, scheme promoters are required to disclose information to HMRC about schemes falling within certain statutory descriptions. HMRC has investigated or is currently investigating more than 90 promoters suspected of failing to comply with a disclosure obligation.

                      from http://www.publications.parliament.u...90210w0016.htm
                      There's an elephant wondering around here...

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