BN66 - Time to fight back (Chapter 3)

[bombaycat]

top thread - thanks

Just recommended to this thread by a fellow MP friend today - good thread, most helpful.
Is nice to feel that there are others out there sharing this predicament.

For what it's worth I'm going to fight this to the end, this month I lost my appendix, my job/contract w/ no notice (the day I got out of hospital), gearbox has gone on my car and had a power cut that defrosted all my freezer contents.....so what else can go wrong eh? Oh yeah another delightful missive from the rev concerning the JR - just what I needed!

I'm thinking of going the CTD route as seems like good insurance.
Just to clarify, if we lose (I don't think we will) has anyone got any ideas what we might have to pay? i.e. the tax they deem to be owed + interest, tax + interest + fine + interest on fine.....or what?
I guess that you're going to say it'll depend on the agreement that we reach with them, if so, would that be en masse through MP or individually negotiated?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[ContractIn]

A few people have been asking me how to set up a CTD.
Could anybody provide an overview of the steps required?

I purchased mine earlier this year by following the steps on the HMRC web site, couldn't be much simpler.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/howtopay/cert_tax_deposit.htm

However, I did wait a while to receive the certificate (approx 3-4 weeks), when I phoned the office they said that they were having a high demand for certificates, which was unusual. I didn't suggest to them why this may be!

[sgee]

many thanks for delurking - apologies for not replying sooner but it takes a while for new posters' posts to get moderated.

How long have you been with montp? Still got a mortgage? If savings - have you bought a CTD?

The worst thing is that this will take years to resolve either way - better prepare for the long haul......

I have a bit of equity in the house - not my 1st choice of result tho Thinking of the CTD stuff - just trying to do an assessment of what I can throw in it. Been with montp too long not to be worried - since about 2002.. thanks for the reply though, I am in the stress management position right now!

[seadog]

Mounting a PR campaign

There has been much discussion about the way in which we all, as MontP clients and victims of HMRC retrospective "clarification", might help our case by writing to our MP or mounting a PR campaign.

As HMRC have said in their newsletter even if we win the JR they are under no legal obligation to change the law which has already been passsed.

Assuming we win should we now be thinking about how to get HMRC to abandon any claims prior to April 08? We need to strike while the result of the JR is hot so that we are up and running when the result of the JR is announced.

Conversely, if heaven forbid we loose do, we need the PR company to advise on a co-ordianted pressure group to lobby for relief rather than let HMRC pick us off one at a time. United we stand, divided we fall.

A PR campaign can take many forms not just getting red top newspaper headlines. A co-ordinated campaign would be more effective than sporadic letters etc and bearing in mind the vast sums involved should we think about asking Mont P to appoint a PR company who could advise on the best form of action even if we all contributed say £50 to get the campaign off on a professional basis.

Any comments guys.

[BrilloPad]

Just recommended to this thread by a fellow MP friend today - good thread, most helpful.
Is nice to feel that there are others out there sharing this predicament.

For what it's worth I'm going to fight this to the end, this month I lost my appendix, my job/contract w/ no notice (the day I got out of hospital), gearbox has gone on my car and had a power cut that defrosted all my freezer contents.....so what else can go wrong eh? Oh yeah another delightful missive from the rev concerning the JR - just what I needed!

I'm thinking of going the CTD route as seems like good insurance.
Just to clarify, if we lose (I don't think we will) has anyone got any ideas what we might have to pay? i.e. the tax they deem to be owed + interest, tax + interest + fine + interest on fine.....or what?
I guess that you're going to say it'll depend on the agreement that we reach with them, if so, would that be en masse through MP or individually negotiated?

Thanks in advance for your help.

welcome to the thread and thank you for delurking. sorry to hear about your woes - hang in there things will get better.

Does your house insurance cover your freezer contents?

How long have you been with montp? Are you still with them?

We will have to pay tax+simple interest - no fine, no compound interest. Any idea how much you owe? Should be about a third of your trust income.

BP

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I'm thinking of going the CTD route as seems like good insurance.
Just to clarify, if we lose (I don't think we will) has anyone got any ideas what we might have to pay? i.e. the tax they deem to be owed + interest, tax + interest + fine + interest on fine.....or what?
I guess that you're going to say it'll depend on the agreement that we reach with them, if so, would that be en masse through MP or individually negotiated?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Welcome to the dicussion. There are no fines/penalties on the cards, so it is "only" tax+interest. There is nothing you can do about any interest which has already accrued but getting a CTD would at least stop any more being added.

If we lose I can't see HMRC offering any deals, although they may have to accept a reduced payment in many cases because there are a lot of people who simply won't have the means to pay. If it ever comes to this it is going to be extremely messy.

[TheBarCapBoyz]

In addition to writing to MPs and so on, why not get the PCG to take up our case?


I mean, their raison d'etre is to represent contractors, right?

They're bound to help us.

[BrilloPad]

In addition to writing to MPs and so on, why not get the PCG to take up our case?


I mean, their raison d'etre is to represent contractors, right?

They're bound to help us.

I don't think they do overseas cases.

[TheBarCapBoyz]

This is not an overseas case.

It's UK tax payers being victimised by HMRC with the help of the UK Govt.


Surely you're not implying the PCG is useless, are you?

Heretic.

[MuddyFunster]

Reading between the lines, Mr. PCG says here http://www.shout99.com/contractors/s...id=52716;n=250 that it's our own fault as we were blatantly flouting the spirit of the law. Cheers and thanks for your support!