BN66 - Time to fight back (Chapter 3)

[KiwiGuy]

A father walks into a restaurant with his young son. He gives the
young boy 3 pennies to play with to keep him occupied. Suddenly,
the boy starts choking, going blue in the face. The father realizes the boy has swallowed the pennies and starts slapping him on the back. The boy coughs up 2 of the pennies, but keeps choking. Looking at his son, the father is panicking, shouting for help.

A well dressed, attractive, and serious looking woman, in a blue
business suit is sitting at a coffee bar reading a newspaper and
sipping a cup of coffee. At the sound of the commotion, she looks up,
puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds the newspaper and places it on
the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried,
across the restaurant.

Reaching the boy, the woman carefully drops his pants; takes hold of
the boy's testicles and starts to squeeze and twist, gently at first
and then ever so firmly. After a few seconds the boy convulses
violently and coughs up the last penny, which the woman deftly
catches in her free hand. Releasing the boy's testicles, the woman hands the penny to the father and walks back to her seat at the coffee bar without saying a word.

As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the
father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her saying, "I've
never seen anybody do anything like that before, it was fantastic. Are
you a doctor? "

'No,' the woman replied. .......................I'm with the Inland Revenue.

[KiwiGuy]

Got my FOI requests stuff from HMRC at the weekend.

From the Data Protection Officer.

Unfortunately the "Data Protection Officer" didn't deem that my data was worth protected so put a huge amount of paperwork into a flimsly jiffy bag. Guess what happened next?

Yip, that's right. It was open when it arrived via Royal Mail with a lovely clear plastic wrapped around it with an apology from the Royal Mail.

I'm absolutely livid that my personal tax affairs were treated like this and left on show to the world, not to mention the concerns I have over identity theft !

Should I complain to HMRC or will that just stir up crap I don't want stirred up?

What did you ask them for, i hardly got anything

[BrilloPad]

Got my FOI requests stuff from HMRC at the weekend.

From the Data Protection Officer.

Unfortunately the "Data Protection Officer" didn't deem that my data was worth protected so put a huge amount of paperwork into a flimsly jiffy bag. Guess what happened next?

Yip, that's right. It was open when it arrived via Royal Mail with a lovely clear plastic wrapped around it with an apology from the Royal Mail.

I'm absolutely livid that my personal tax affairs were treated like this and left on show to the world, not to mention the concerns I have over identity theft !

Should I complain to HMRC or will that just stir up crap I don't want stirred up?

Personally I complain ever time I have an issue with a government department just to give them grief.

How do you get on with your MP? Worth complaining via him/her?

[DonkeyRhubarb]

David Cameron

Just heard from someone in his constituency that Cameron has written to the JCHR calling for a review of S58.

This should add some weight to all the other MPs who have approached the committee. Hopefully, it should make it more difficult for the Treasury to try and scupper it.

[Lazylobster]

Just heard from someone in his constituency that Cameron has written to the JCHR calling for a review of S58.

This should add some weight to all the other MPs who have approached the committee. Hopefully, it should make it more difficult for the Treasury to try and scupper it.

GREAT NEWS

[poppy01]

Just heard from someone in his constituency that Cameron has written to the JCHR calling for a review of S58.

This should add some weight to all the other MPs who have approached the committee. Hopefully, it should make it more difficult for the Treasury to try and scupper it.

even better that he will be PM soon, and we can badger him about him and his parties support of such a review and treasury committe objections to get it repealed

[SLB]

Just heard from someone in his constituency that Cameron has written to the JCHR calling for a review of S58.

This should add some weight to all the other MPs who have approached the committee. Hopefully, it should make it more difficult for the Treasury to try and scupper it.

That is very good news - thanks DR!!

[robinhood]

Just heard from someone in his constituency that Cameron has written to the JCHR calling for a review of S58.

This should add some weight to all the other MPs who have approached the committee. Hopefully, it should make it more difficult for the Treasury to try and scupper it.

Also had a note from my MP Jeremy Hunt along the same lines

> "In light of your concern, I will write to the Chair of the JCHR, Andrew
> Dismore MP, to ask request the Committee to undertake a review of the
> retrospective tax enacted in Section 58 Finance Act 2008 and will let
> you know as soon as I hear back. I will also write to Stephen Timms MP,
> Financial Secretary to the Treasury, to ask him to clarify the
> enforcement of this section and to outline why it was that despite
> considering the issues "very carefully" the JCHR was not consulted. I
> forward on any reply I receive."

[TAF4]

Also had a note from my MP Jeremy Hunt along the same lines

> "In light of your concern, I will write to the Chair of the JCHR, Andrew
> Dismore MP, to ask request the Committee to undertake a review of the
> retrospective tax enacted in Section 58 Finance Act 2008 and will let
> you know as soon as I hear back. I will also write to Stephen Timms MP,
> Financial Secretary to the Treasury, to ask him to clarify the
> enforcement of this section and to outline why it was that despite
> considering the issues "very carefully" the JCHR was not consulted. I
> forward on any reply I receive."

Interesting comment.

In the FOI response it was made very clear that there was no admission whether JCHR had or had not been consulted. The wording was such that I got the impression that HMRC relied on their own solicitor's 'learned' opinion.

As Julia Roberts once said - 'Mistake, BIG Mistake'

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Interesting comment.

In the FOI response it was made very clear that there was no admission whether JCHR had or had not been consulted. The wording was such that I got the impression that HMRC relied on their own solicitor's 'learned' opinion.

As Julia Roberts once said - 'Mistake, BIG Mistake'

A separate FOI request to the Treasury, asking whether the JCHR had been consulted, came back with "we have no record of it".

There is no way that HMRC would have consulted the JCHR. I don't even believe that they obtained a legal opinion. After all, why risking asking a question if you might not like the answer?