BN66 - Time to fight back: Continued

[elpinar]

And HMRC will be adding a further 5% if we don't pay within 30 days of the notice....and another 5% after 6 months.

B*stards.

So much for their being no penalties.

Is this true even if they are appealed against ? thought that put all this on hold .... plus...... if you have a ctd no interst is accruting ... what do they call these 5%?

[poppy01]

Is this true even if they are appealed against ? thought that put all this on hold .... plus...... if you have a ctd no interst is accruting ... what do they call these 5%?

I dont believe this applies when the closure notice has been appealed against.

[harrinp1]

I've now received details of four amended tax returns for 2003-2006, I presume these are closure notices, three just say that I had omitted my partnership income and show my updated calculations.

One thing that confuses me is that it states:-

Your return is amended as follows:

Your SA before enq was X tax was due.
My Amedment results in a Y increase in tax due.
The ammended SA is now X+Y Due.

And then at the bottom of the letter it has a figure showing the total now due on my SA Account. However this figure seems to include all of the X figures from above which I'm guessing I have already paid!?

Also the letter for year ending 2003 is in a different format to the other three!

I've forwarded them all to MP, but does somebody have the correct phone number for NW/TQ?

[BrilloPad]

MP submitted an appeal against my closure notices recently. Should I receive any confirmation/feedback from HMRC?

HMRC write to montp confirming the appeal and application for postponement.

[BrilloPad]

Someone in this thread said that over 100 closure notices have been received and that MP were appealing. I don't know if enough time has passed yet, but does anyone know what (if any) response there's been to the appeals?

It would be interesting to know as I understood that HMRC would be rejecting appeals against these notices.

THey haven't rejected any appeals and montp don't expect them to.

They would have to go to commissioners to issue jeporady assessments. This is unlikely.

[BrilloPad]

On the letter with my closure notice it stated that if I do not pay within 30 days they will add a further 5%

If I do not pay after 6 months another 5% will be added.

In my eyes, that is a penalty.

The surcharge won't apply if the assessemnt is appealed against and tax postponed.

the 5% kicks in 30 days after the due date which would be after the appeals process exhausted.

I really would prefer it if you PMed myself or DonkeyRhubarb as you come across as a s**t stirring troll. Personally I would prefer it to be DR - though I bet he would prefer it if it was me!!

[BrilloPad]

Is this true even if they are appealed against ? thought that put all this on hold .... plus...... if you have a ctd no interst is accruting ... what do they call these 5%?

Not atall true. Please dont believe what the troll says - or feed it.........

[BrilloPad]

I've now received details of four amended tax returns for 2003-2006, I presume these are closure notices, three just say that I had omitted my partnership income and show my updated calculations.

One thing that confuses me is that it states:-

Your return is amended as follows:

Your SA before enq was X tax was due.
My Amedment results in a Y increase in tax due.
The ammended SA is now X+Y Due.

And then at the bottom of the letter it has a figure showing the total now due on my SA Account. However this figure seems to include all of the X figures from above which I'm guessing I have already paid!?

Also the letter for year ending 2003 is in a different format to the other three!

I've forwarded them all to MP, but does somebody have the correct phone number for NW/TQ?

There are some who have found that by sending me a PM they get a response!

I will ask admin if they can upgrade you account to allow PMs.

BP

[harrinp1]

There are some who have found that by sending me a PM they get a response!

I will ask admin if they can upgrade you account to allow PMs.

BP

Thanks. I've just checked my account online and see that my total figure payment includes a not insignificant amount on interest!

[Emigre]

On the letter with my closure notice it stated that if I do not pay within 30 days they will add a further 5%

If I do not pay after 6 months another 5% will be added.

In my eyes, that is a penalty.

Quote from Closure Notices:
"Any tax which is payable as a result of this letter should be paid within 30 days of the date you receive this notice. A 5% surcharge will be imposed on any tax which is unpaid more than 28 days after this. And an additional 5% surcharge will also be imposed on any tax which is still unpaid more than 6 months after it was due.

You have the right to appeal...

At the same time you can ask to postpone payment of any tax you think is overcharged until your appeal is settled."

I received my CN 6 days after date on letter. On that basis first surcharge would be payable 6 + 30 + 28 = 64 days after the date of HMRC notice. However, by appealing, and requesting postponement at the same time, the surcharges get lost too.

A mate, also a member here, just 7 days after receipt of the CNs received a "Notice Warning of Legal Proceedings which went:

You must make payment in full by x date (where x date was 22 days after the date of the CNs!!!)

If you do not I will start distraint action against you. This means that I will seize your possessions and later arrange to have them sold at public auction. The proceeds from the sale will be set against the debt and the costs of the action.

Err. Letter 2 seems to take away the rights conferred in letter 1?

BTW, mate was last seen gazing at the inside of an empty bottle behind the barricades.