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Approx % of profits lost to tax NI in a Ltd company?

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    Approx % of profits lost to tax NI in a Ltd company?

    I am working on the basis of being outside IR35, as advised by my accountant. I am taking a salary of £900 gross per month, and it looks like that will work out at ~ 1/3 going on PAYE, employer and employee NI.

    So what is the total % I would expect to lose on dividends I take... I guess the part under and over the upper tax incurs different rates?
    My thoughts were that under the threshold, I pay no personal tax but the company profit is taxed at ~20%, is that right?
    Does a company get the first £X,000 tax free or are all company profits taxed at a flat rate?

    Thanks.
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    I am working on the basis of being outside IR35, as advised by my accountant. I am taking a salary of £900 gross per month, and it looks like that will work out at ~ 1/3 going on PAYE, employer and employee NI.

    So what is the total % I would expect to lose on dividends I take... I guess the part under and over the upper tax incurs different rates?
    My thoughts were that under the threshold, I pay no personal tax but the company profit is taxed at ~20%, is that right?
    Does a company get the first £X,000 tax free or are all company profits taxed at a flat rate?

    Thanks.
    20% CT on all profits. Going up to 21% then 22% in 2 years. No tax-free amount.

    For the last year I billed £120k before VAT. I kept £2.5k from flat rate VAT. I made £1500 interest. My expenses (tax-free: transport, 2 * salaries of £5,220, pensions) came to £21k. Profit was then £104k. I paid £20.5k Corporation Tax. Net profit after tax was therefore £83k. Wife and I received £60k in dividends. We therefore paid effectively £18k tax on £120k. That is 15%.

    However, £23k left over, on which I will probably pay tax in the future. If I wanted to receive this today rather than leaving it in the company for the future, I would pay 25% income tax on that = 19.8% tax effective.

    From next year, spouses can no longer receive dividends if they do not contribute to earning revenue. So then from next year, that's another £7,500 in income tax/year. That would then be 26% tax. If you did not pay yourself any pension (I paid £6k), then that's another £2,400 of tax = 28% tax overall.

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      #3
      Beats me why people bother. What an incentive-destroying system we have.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
      John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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        Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
        Beats me why people bother. What an incentive-destroying system we have.
        Yeah, coming home with £100K isn'r much of an incentive when I'd be looking at ~30K for a decent job in the North East.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #5
          just to add, your £9k salary will cost you about an 22.8%, for the NI, for all above £5.22k so that's a further £861.40 in tax

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            #6
            Lost

            It's not being "lost". It's being invested for your own good and the good of the country.

            Alasdairlizard Thunderdarling.

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