Don't want the new company to see that I was let go

[richy]

You don't have to give a P45 to anyone anyway, it is only given to show the tax you have paid in the financial year so far. If you say you've not received it yet, the new employers payroll dept will just call and ask how much tax you have paid.

there are no names addresses or dates on it for the days you've worked...!

i never give the P45 in to new employeers when i am a permie

[Gonzo]

i never give the P45 in to new employeers when i am a permie

Best not to otherwise they will find out how much you lied about the salary you were on at your previous employer.

[Diver]

Best not to otherwise they will find out how much you lied about the salary you were on at your previous employer.

They will find that out anyway on submission of a P60.

[kesm]

You don't have to give a P45 to anyone anyway, it is only given to show the tax you have paid in the financial year so far. If you say you've not received it yet, the new employers payroll dept will just call and ask how much tax you have paid.

there are no names addresses or dates on it for the days you've worked...!

i never give the P45 in to new employeers when i am a permie

Many thanks for all the replies.
I think they will be able to see that I did not pay much tax because I have only worked for 3.5 days, no? (I had a year out so no other payments were received during the financial year). And that way they might figure out that I only worked for a short amount of time somewhere..

[TheFaQQer]

Many thanks for all the replies.
I think they will be able to see that I did not pay much tax because I have only worked for 3.5 days, no? (I had a year out so no other payments were received during the financial year). And that way they might figure out that I only worked for a short amount of time somewhere..

The main point is - why does the umbrella care?

They aren't going to be showing your P45 / P60 around anywhere else - if they do, then you need a different umbrella!!

Or setup your own limited company.

I think you're worrying unnecessarily about it - if it's not on your CV, and you are working for yourself or an umbrella, then no-one will care what your last permie job paid you. If you are taking a new permie role with a new employer, then it's very different though.

[kesm]

Thank you very much for the reply.

So if I start a Permanent role will the company find out that I only worked for 3.5 days in my previous role?

[fzbucks]

Thank you very much for the reply.

So if I start a Permanent role will the company find out that I only worked for 3.5 days in my previous role?

only if you tell them

[r0bly0ns]

Your employer is your umbrella company not the end client.

The fact you were only at a clients for 3.5 days is not important, you were never employed by the client, you were providing them a service through your umbrella company.

Your length of service will be from the day you started with your umbrella company until the day you leave it, 1 Job, no matter how many end clients you do work for through them.



(Let's see if it end up in the right thread this time....)

[richard-af]

P45

If memory serves, you can tick a box on a P45 (or similar) to stop the next employer seeing that sort of thing... I think.

Anyway, I doubt very much that Mavis in Payroll is likely to be a Poirot-like sleuth, geared-up to catching people out, when she's probably on a midge's above minumum wage.

Blag it.