Long time listener, first time caller.
I ran a Ltd and many outside IR35 contracts for over 10 years, until a few years ago where I wound it all up for personal reasons.
Fast forward, I am now working on an inside IR35 contract. It's a 1 year contract and started a few months ago.
The employer is obliged legally to pay me pension and I pay some too (I don't opt out). I submit and get paid weekly timesheets. Let's pretend the day rate is £500.
As I'm on a weekly payroll, my pension contributions are capped weekly. So for 5 days a week, I'd get a payslip for £2500 minus tax and then an additional capped pension contribution from the employer. To make things simple, let's pretend that capped pension amount is say £25 a week, because the employer only has to pay pension on the first £500 or so of weekly earnings. This is legal and above board from what I can tell.
So far, so normal. Now the fun part.
My employer pays my timesheets obviously when they are approved. This means if I worked for e.g. 3 weeks before all the corresponding timesheets were approved, I would then get one "weekly" payslip but actually containing 3 weeks money i.e. 3 x £2500 = £7500 (minus tax).
However, the weekly pension cap is still applied on the total of that "weekly" payslip. i.e. against the full £7500. So I only get one payment of £25 for that 3 week payslip even though if instead I had 3 separate payslips, I would have received the "full" amount i.e. 3 x £25 = £75.
This discrepancy means the amount of my pension pay is at the whim of when the client approves my timesheets, rather than the actual period worked. Obviously the incentive for me is to get regular weekly approvals like clockwork (as it always is anyway) but now there is small incentive for the client to do the opposite and approve as few as possible.
In practice, the sums of money are not large and I am obviously well paid but I still believe this is unfair and possibly illegal because it disadvantages me financially in a manner I cannot mitigate nor control.
I've attempted to approach the client payroll over this (large corporate) and there is no sense to be had with them. I only get blanket responses such as, "we pay everything we have to" and "your payroll is correct" and they won't directly address the issue (rather unsurprisingly). They have hundreds of contractors on similar arrangements.
I'm very interested to hear opinions on this. Is this just something I have to suck up or is this fishy and worth pushing further, as I suspect?
I ran a Ltd and many outside IR35 contracts for over 10 years, until a few years ago where I wound it all up for personal reasons.
Fast forward, I am now working on an inside IR35 contract. It's a 1 year contract and started a few months ago.
The employer is obliged legally to pay me pension and I pay some too (I don't opt out). I submit and get paid weekly timesheets. Let's pretend the day rate is £500.
As I'm on a weekly payroll, my pension contributions are capped weekly. So for 5 days a week, I'd get a payslip for £2500 minus tax and then an additional capped pension contribution from the employer. To make things simple, let's pretend that capped pension amount is say £25 a week, because the employer only has to pay pension on the first £500 or so of weekly earnings. This is legal and above board from what I can tell.
So far, so normal. Now the fun part.
My employer pays my timesheets obviously when they are approved. This means if I worked for e.g. 3 weeks before all the corresponding timesheets were approved, I would then get one "weekly" payslip but actually containing 3 weeks money i.e. 3 x £2500 = £7500 (minus tax).
However, the weekly pension cap is still applied on the total of that "weekly" payslip. i.e. against the full £7500. So I only get one payment of £25 for that 3 week payslip even though if instead I had 3 separate payslips, I would have received the "full" amount i.e. 3 x £25 = £75.
This discrepancy means the amount of my pension pay is at the whim of when the client approves my timesheets, rather than the actual period worked. Obviously the incentive for me is to get regular weekly approvals like clockwork (as it always is anyway) but now there is small incentive for the client to do the opposite and approve as few as possible.
In practice, the sums of money are not large and I am obviously well paid but I still believe this is unfair and possibly illegal because it disadvantages me financially in a manner I cannot mitigate nor control.
I've attempted to approach the client payroll over this (large corporate) and there is no sense to be had with them. I only get blanket responses such as, "we pay everything we have to" and "your payroll is correct" and they won't directly address the issue (rather unsurprisingly). They have hundreds of contractors on similar arrangements.
I'm very interested to hear opinions on this. Is this just something I have to suck up or is this fishy and worth pushing further, as I suspect?
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