£75 to change FRS category

[d000hg]

I'm not sure you're forced to enter invoices in their system at all are you are you? Only if you chose to, you now have to do it a certain way? I'll admit I found it a bit irksome having to enter my client but other than that everything I entered was what I already entered... like 3 bits of data. You've been able to submit invoices for ages but if you're now forced to do so that's new on me?

[d000hg]

Also re:FRS it reads they'll consult with you and then you only pay if you ask them to do the work. You'd be free to do the last part directly.

I'm a bit dubious that just as FRS is taken away from us the rates suddenly get better Where/what ARE all the new options we can use instead of "IT Consultancy" anyway?

[Eirikur]

SJD moved me off the FRS for free. Started my delayed purchasing of equipment yesterday

[TheFaQQer]

I'm not sure you're forced to enter invoices in their system at all are you are you?

If you don't enter the invoices then your accountant can't do your VAT return for you. Which is kind of daft.

You're not forced to use the portal at all - just don't expect your accountant to be able to do anything without the information.

[thelastrosbif]

Is any of this beta tested on users? Like, does anyone who is actually contracting get to use it before its forced upon the rest of us paying customers?

[jamesbrown]

If you don't enter the invoices then your accountant can't do your VAT return for you. Which is kind of daft.

You're not forced to use the portal at all - just don't expect your accountant to be able to do anything without the information.

I'm also not a fan of the changes (to put it mildly). However, TBF, when speaking with In Touch, they clarified that the documentation was merely added, by default, in case it was useful and, beyond the initial admin to register a contract, the auto-generated invoices could be ignored. Certainly, I will be ignoring them, as they are not valid invoices or configurable to be valid invoices for my purposes. I'm hoping the default dividend paperwork can be ignored with similar ease. You can see why they do these things, I suppose - to make life easier for the average contractor, many of whom (I suspect) don't really want to run a business - but, for the rest of us, they actually increase the admin overhead. Bottom line, if there were ever an argument for developing a bespoke accounting portal, it probably died when tools like FreeAgent came along...

[d000hg]

SJD moved me off the FRS for free. Started my delayed purchasing of equipment yesterday

A) and what does SJD charge per month
B) this is not about leaving FRS but reclassification

[Fred Bloggs]

I'm also not a fan of the changes (to put it mildly). However, TBF, when speaking with In Touch, they clarified that the documentation was merely added, by default, in case it was useful and, beyond the initial admin to register a contract, the auto-generated invoices could be ignored. Certainly, I will be ignoring them, as they are not valid invoices or configurable to be valid invoices for my purposes. I'm hoping the default dividend paperwork can be ignored with similar ease. You can see why they do these things, I suppose - to make life easier for the average contractor, many of whom (I suspect) don't really want to run a business - but, for the rest of us, they actually increase the admin overhead. Bottom line, if there were ever an argument for developing a bespoke accounting portal, it probably died when tools like FreeAgent came along...

^^^^ For sure. ^^^^

[youngguy]

Bottom line, if there were ever an argument for developing a bespoke accounting portal, it probably died when tools like FreeAgent came along...

Totally. I feel for the old skoolers to a certain extent, as FreeAgent has been a game changer and it must be incredibly difficult to keep up.

It took me a while to take the plunge and move accountants (as I couldn't fault InTouch on service ) but to be honest their tool wasn't up to scratch and having to do my own invoices, dividend vouchers and manual expenses just lost the appeal

[Fred Bloggs]

Totally. I feel for the old skoolers to a certain extent, as FreeAgent has been a game changer and it must be incredibly difficult to keep up.

It took me a while to take the plunge and move accountants (as I couldn't fault InTouch on service ) but to be honest their tool wasn't up to scratch and having to do my own invoices, dividend vouchers and manual expenses just lost the appeal

All of which and plenty more are a piece of cake using "you know what". I moved from a neanderthal spready based system, what a revelation!