MoD and Public Sector

[Darren at Fox-Bartfield]

Not sure if someone has picked up on the links below but just in case, couple of articles on contractors walking out due to the changes next year.

Shout99

ComputerWeekly

[teapot418]

Not sure if someone has picked up on the links below but just in case, couple of articles on contractors walking out due to the changes next year.

Shout99

ComputerWeekly

UKHO had pre-empted next year's changes and given the contractors the choice of IR35 caught or termination. They chose termination.

[smalldog]

Not sure if someone has picked up on the links below but just in case, couple of articles on contractors walking out due to the changes next year.

Shout99

ComputerWeekly

Whoever dreamt up this idea is obviously not a business person. They just don't understand the damage to the public sector and its already happening. Ive left PS and three others who I worked with in Transport for London. Its causing havoc already and not small projects, Im talking Crossrail! They don't have any decent permies to pickup the shortfall as they don't pay enough perm salary to attract good talent, they cant do their own jobs let alone cover the reduced headcount. What a shambles!

[eek]

Whoever dreamt up this idea is obviously not a business person. They just don't understand the damage to the public sector and its already happening. Ive left PS and three others who I worked with in Transport for London. Its causing havoc already and not small projects, Im talking Crossrail! They don't have any decent permies to pickup the shortfall as they don't pay enough perm salary to attract good talent, they cant do their own jobs let alone cover the reduced headcount. What a shambles!

To a certain extent it will highlight the problem - you are not paying enough to get the talent you want.

I think some people already understand that permanent jobs in DWP (you wouldn't get me working there as the offices are beyond ) are paying above the market rate to get good people.

[smalldog]

To a certain extent it will highlight the problem - you are not paying enough to get the talent you want.

I think some people already understand that permanent jobs in DWP (you wouldn't get me working there as the offices are beyond ) are paying above the market rate to get good people.

agree, it shines a light on the broader issues of payscales. However with govt. cuts to public sector budgets they are between a rock and a hard place as they cant pay whats required, TfL at least.

[BoredBloke]

I suspect the shortfall will be picked up by some bodyshop somewhere

[eek]

I suspect the shortfall will be picked up by some bodyshop somewhere

A lot of the PSC work can't be

[SueEllen]

I suspect the shortfall will be picked up by some bodyshop somewhere

Body shops use contractors for the skills they don't have.

They try and put their own people in but often the client declines them, or they put them in and the client gets them removed otherwise they will award the contract elsewhere.

Contractors as soon as they know the end client is a public sector one will refuse the contract.

[oracleslave]

I suspect the shortfall will be picked up by some bodyshop somewhere

It's the consultancies on Gloud that are going to clean up.

[smalldog]

The likes of CAP Gemini will be rubbing their hands together with all this going on as they will be the fall back option when the contractors have run for the hills and the permies are dying on their feet.

Public sector bodies will think "yes the costs maybe more per day for consultancy but we get leverage and can claw back some money by way of missed delivery penalties". Unfortunately most public sector procurement and commercial teams don't seem to know what day it is and are pure order placers, let alone contract manage suppliers. The big firms will run rings round their procurement teams.