Is convicted ex accountant Darren Upton practicing?

[northernladuk]

If you have Darren Roberts driving licence that would include his date of birth, can you compare this to the known date of birth of Darren Upton, as said you can’t prove positive his past but you might be able to disprove it

I would have thought just looking at the picture would have been enough no? Unless he's sporting a new beard and wearing comedy nose and glasses?

[ZARDOZ]

Instead, he's hidden who he is, used his new identity to build up a clientele, and it looks like he just might be setting up to do, and could even already be doing, the same thing he did before.

That is a massive danger and completely in violation of DU's banning order. It's not just being a director, but also ACTING as one!

The guy who posted here for the last almost three years showed that he can be A) very knowledgeable B) friendly C) helpful D) actually very likeable

Just like all good con men/sociopaths!

We can see from Companies House that Darren Roberts is no longer a shareholder so there is no longer a need for us to pursue proof of his identity.

He has been using this site to promote a limited company, and if it is Darren Upton that is also a breach of the order (in bold)




Ken Beasley, official receiver of the Insolvency Service’s Public Interest Unit, said: “Mr Upton’s actions were dishonest and clearly show that he is unfit to be a director of a limited company.

“The disqualification serves as a protection to the public and demonstrates that the Insolvency Service will not hesitate to use its enforcement powers to remove dishonest directors from the business environment.”

Disqualification orders

A disqualification order has the effect that without specific permission of a court, a person with a disqualification cannot:

· act as a director of a company

· take part, directly or indirectly, in the promotion, formation or management of a company or limited liability partnership

· act as an insolvency practitioner

· be a receiver of a company’s property

[WordIsBond]

Just to answer some of the questions and issues that have been risen here. The content on this forum is user generated by the contracting community and ContractorUK does not validate the identity of the users on the forum - it might be interesting and revealing in many cases if we did! Also the awards are voted for by the readers.

To the issue at hand – the identity of Darren Roberts. We were made aware by posts on this forum that there was a question regarding the mentions by others of Darren Roberts actually being the convicted fraudster Darren Upton. As you can imagine this is a not a matter that we took lightly and, despite us not saying much on the matter to date, we have been continuing to investigate this issue to try and get a conclusive outcome.

When this issue was initially raised we did ask Mr Roberts to provide us with proof of ID and a copy of his driving licence was emailed to us. Whilst this document clearly shows that it was issued to a Darren Roberts the document did not conclusively prove to us that the individual had not previously been known by another name or was valid. The document was provided to us out of goodwill and it is not our place to act on rumour or possibilities. All we can say is that we have since asked for further validation of identity.

We were still pressing for further proof of identity of Darren Roberts when we were advised that he was leaving his current firm. In recapping all of this to you I do not see how we could possibly have played this any differently. Whist we have been pushing for more concrete proof of ID - we are not judge and jury in this matter and could not make statements on what is simply hearsay at this point in time. There are also aspects of our investigations that I am not making light to you but we had followed other avenues in relation to this issue as well.

The safety of our site users is of the utmost importance to us and it is with this in mind that we took the steps that we did in order to try and get some positive proof as to the identity of Darren Roberts. We can see from Companies House that Darren Roberts is no longer a shareholder so there is no longer a need for us to pursue proof of his identity.

Nice to know you're alive.

You are aware, I trust, that it has been stated earlier on this thread that Darren whoever-he-is has recently contacted a client of Fox-Bartfield, and that the person commenting believes Darren is still there. His Linked-In contact info still lists F-B website. His timeline says he left F-B in February, which is after he divested himself of his FB shares. So ownership of shares doesn't really prove anything, does it? A guy doesn't have to own shares in his accounting firm to do the things Darren Upton did. He just needs to build a clientele and figure out which of them might be gullible enough to fall for the same scam again.

Has F-B told you specifically that Darren Roberts has left, and have you asked them about his identity? You are still (as of yesterday, anyway) dropping ads from them in my inbox. If he's Darren Upton, and they knew it, I don't really want to see those ads anymore.

Thanks for responding to all this. I don't think, however, that 'Darren Roberts isn't a shareholder anymore' quite ends the matter. It doesn't for me, not as long as you continue to accept ads from the people who facilitated whatever it is he's been trying to do.

[WordIsBond]

If you have Darren Roberts driving licence that would include his date of birth, can you compare this to the known date of birth of Darren Upton, as said you can’t prove positive his past but you might be able to disprove it

Good suggestion, if you can also tell Admin where to find the known date of birth of Darren Upton.

[WordIsBond]

That is a massive danger and completely in violation of DU's banning order. It's not just being a director, but also ACTING as one!

He would argue that he's acted like a salesman, not like a director, he's been marketing accountancy skills / knowledge, and someone else has been running the company.

Just like all good con men/sociopaths!

Yep. But not everyone who is intelligent, friendly, and nice is a sociopath. It's certainly possible he's been trying to go straight, but hiding from his past. Of course, he might just be looking to scam people again, too. Who knows?

Disqualification orders

A disqualification order has the effect that without specific permission of a court, a person with a disqualification cannot:

· act as a director of a company

· take part, directly or indirectly, in the promotion, formation or management of a company or limited liability partnership

· act as an insolvency practitioner

· be a receiver of a company’s property[/I]

Yes, you are right on this. His involvement as the largest shareholder (50%) in the formation of F-B appears to be a violation of those terms, if it is DJU. It should probably be reported so they can investigate. Do you want to do so?

[malvolio]

Upton was 40 in Feb 2012 when convicted, so born in 1972

Roberts was born in Dec 71 so would have been 41 in 1972.

So close, but possibly no banana.

Incidentally, DR did respond to this thread, back on page 1.

[Invisiblehand]

Upton was 40 in Feb 2012 when convicted, so born in 1972

Roberts was born in Dec 71 so would have been 41 in 1972.

So close, but possibly no banana.

Incidentally, DR did respond to this thread, back on page 1.

Not according to this: Darren John UPTON - Disqualification Details (free disqualification information from Companies House)

[Invisiblehand]

Good suggestion, if you can also tell Admin where to find the known date of birth of Darren Upton.

See above link. December 16th 1971.

[malvolio]

Not according to this: Darren John UPTON - Disqualification Details (free disqualification information from Companies House)

Hmmm... Sloppy reporting then... Gosh.

[pr1]

Upton was 40 in Feb 2012 when convicted, so born in 1972

Roberts was born in Dec 71 so would have been 41 in 1972.

So close, but possibly no banana.

Incidentally, DR did respond to this thread, back on page 1.

Either january or february 1972 or March-December 1971....

Someone born in December 1971 would be 40 in February 2012

Hmmm... Sloppy reporting then... Gosh.

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