Paying "finders' fees" to agents ?

[Yonmons]

Cant wack a bit of bribery, and corruption to get the day underway. Anyone who thinks it isnt is walking about with arms outstretched on puffy white clouds eyes closed in FANTASY LAND.

Heres a quick deffinition to bore us with.

What Constitutes a Bribe?
Broadly, the Act defines bribery as giving or receiving a financial or other advantage in connection with the "improper performance" of a position of trust, or a function that is expected to be performed impartially or in good faith.

Bribery does not have to involve cash or an actual payment exchanging hands and can take many forms such as a gift, lavish treatment during a business trip or tickets to an event.

The types of bribery that take place in the commercial sector are numerous.

Some simple examples follow:

bribery in order to secure or keep a contract.
bribery to secure an order.
bribery to gain any advantage over a competitor.
bribery of a local, national or foreign official to secure a contract.
bribery to turn a blind eye to a health safety issue or poor performance or substitution of materials or false labour charges.
bribery to falsify an inspection report or obtain a certificate.

I think even suggesting it to an agent may well be good enough to put you in the box "Do not touch under any circumstances"

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

It's the Conduct Regs that are relevant here isn't it? Whether it was offered or not it would still be constitute a fee for a work finding service to all intents and purposes wouldn't it?

[Boo]

You have a short memory Boo, I've already answered your question once..

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...king-jobs.html

Hi Cojak,

I had not forgotten but was interested to know which legislation Stek was referring to and which country as I believe he is not a UK national and may have been referring to another legislature.

I understand that an agency may not charge for job seeking activities but there is no reason a Ltd Co. contractor should not provide incentives to its marketing people and don't necessarily see that the law sees that as illegal. After all, agencies are permitted to charge for eg CV polishing services etc. so why not ?

Also, re the bribery thing, agencies routinely email me offering "finders' fees" and there is no impediment to client's HR bods etc being given them too so I think that is a busted flush as well...

Boo

[Boo]

He also keeps forgetting he's got the 183-day rule wrong too!

Off topic, contentious and abusive.

Boo

[northernladuk]

Off topic, contentious and abusive.

Boo Hoo

FTFY

[WTFH]

Cant wack a bit of bribery, and corruption to get the day underway. Anyone who thinks it isnt is walking about with arms outstretched on puffy white clouds eyes closed in FANTASY LAND.

Heres a quick deffinition to bore us with.

What Constitutes a Bribe?
Broadly, the Act defines bribery as giving or receiving a financial or other advantage in connection with the "improper performance" of a position of trust, or a function that is expected to be performed impartially or in good faith.

Bribery does not have to involve cash or an actual payment exchanging hands and can take many forms such as a gift, lavish treatment during a business trip or tickets to an event.

The types of bribery that take place in the commercial sector are numerous.

Some simple examples follow:

bribery in order to secure or keep a contract.
bribery to secure an order.
bribery to gain any advantage over a competitor.
bribery of a local, national or foreign official to secure a contract.
bribery to turn a blind eye to a health safety issue or poor performance or substitution of materials or false labour charges.
bribery to falsify an inspection report or obtain a certificate.

I think even suggesting it to an agent may well be good enough to put you in the box "Do not touch under any circumstances"

I once got accused of bribery by an agency because I asked them for an increase in rate.
I tried to explain that me asking them for more money was not bribery. Took a while for them to understand.

[WordIsBond]

I once got accused of bribery by an agency because I asked them for an increase in rate.
I tried to explain that me asking them for more money was not bribery. Took a while for them to understand.

I get bribed by my clients to do work for them.

I bribed the shop to let me take my groceries out to the car.

I bribed the electric company not to cut off my supply.

LOL.

[SueEllen]

Hi Cojak,

I had not forgotten but was interested to know which legislation Stek was referring to and which country as I believe he is not a UK national and may have been referring to another legislature.

I understand that an agency may not charge for job seeking activities but there is no reason a Ltd Co. contractor should not provide incentives to its marketing people and don't necessarily see that the law sees that as illegal. After all, agencies are permitted to charge for eg CV polishing services etc. so why not ?

Also, re the bribery thing, agencies routinely email me offering "finders' fees" and there is no impediment to client's HR bods etc being given them too so I think that is a busted flush as well...

Boo

How many people do you know who have been paid those fees?

[stek]

Hi Cojak,

I had not forgotten but was interested to know which legislation Stek was referring to and which country as I believe he is not a UK national and may have been referring to another legislature.

Bolton Born and Bred, cock!

[cojak]

Bolton Born and Bred, cock!