IPSE membership tax deductible?

[NibblyPig]

I thought it was a no-brainer, but does jury service cover pay your company, or the individual? If it's the individual it'd presumably be a personal benefit and thus mean membership isn't wholly for the business. If it compensates the business however, it'd presumably be OK.

I guess the same applies to the other types of cover they offer. Any thoughts?

Edit: Just realised I posted this in the wrong forum, if someone could move it...

[malvolio]

It's paid to YourCo, so treat it as YourCo's income.

As for "thoughts": phone up IPSE's customer support team and ask them. You'll then get a definitive answer.

[pr1]

someone wrote a really helpful jury service post the other day, including an IPSE claim

i had jury service in march

day 1 turned up (0900) sat waiting for name to be called out, name wasn't called out, sent home (1600) - TAKE A BOOK OR IPAD!
day 2 turned up (1000) sat waiting for name to be called out, name WAS called out AT 1500, 30 of us taken to court room, judge gave us a brief outline of the case and said it may last up to 6 weeks, gave us a form and told us to come back in an hour with filled out forms - form basically asked "do you know or have you had any contact with X, Y, Z person or A, B, C companies" and "is there any reason why you would prefer not to be on a case which lasts up to 6 weeks" - I gave them a standard "one man band sole breadwinner can't afford it spiel" - of the 30 of us called in, 18 said "we can stay as long as you want mate", 12 came up with similar stories to me, us 12 got sent home. Rang up at 1800 that evening and found out I wasn't needed th next day

day 3-5, not needed in court, carried on at client/billing/invoicing as normal (note, you don't get IPSE cover unless you are required in court)

day 6 got a case expected to last 2-3 days
day 7 case completed, rang up that evening and was no longer required (so back to client)
day 8,9,10 not needed, jury service complete

Filled out a form at the court for "loss of earnings" for the four working days I attended court, which was in my (personal) account within 7 days (only about £60/day)

Took that receipt and filled out the ipse claim form, they rounded what the court paid me up to 4*(dayrate) - (im on less than 500/d) - got a cheque paid to MyCo within 21 days

All in all, 4 days in court, 6 days normal billing, no loss of income

If you are called up for a big (potentially long) case they over fill it with jurors (30 for the 15 required in my case, but other big cases took 60 in) and in a random sample of british electoral registrants there's always going to be 15 people that don't want to go back to work more than you

before anyone says there's 12 on a jury not 15, they always choose 15 in case the defence/prosecution recognise any juror (or vice versa) then 12 names are picked from a hat (literally) out of who's left

[NibblyPig]

I work in a giant steel box in swindon, no phone signal gets in or out, neither does any quantum of happiness.

Easier to ask on here than to walk 15 minutes into the rain and try to make a call

[ASB]

In terms of the original question of whether membership is deductible they need to make it onto the approved list. It's here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ed-societies#i

Edit: though this wasn't the actual question relating to jury service payments.

[MicrosoftBob]

In terms of the original question of whether membership is deductible they need to make it onto the approved list. It's here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ed-societies#i

Edit: though this wasn't the actual question relating to jury service payments.

And to be on the improved list you have to give a list of members, for some reason that wasn't popular

[mudskipper]

And to be on the improved list you have to give a list of members, for some reason that wasn't popular

Never understood that. If I get fingered for ir35, I want Hector to know that a) I've had good advice on how to stay outside, and b) that I've got professional representation. If he knew that before picking on me, he might just go for a softer target.

[northernladuk]

Never understood that. If I get fingered for ir35, I want Hector to know that a) I've had good advice on how to stay outside, and b) that I've got professional representation. If he knew that before picking on me, he might just go for a softer target.

My thoughts exactly but I have a nagging suspicion that level of common sense will not apply when HMRC is involved.