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    #11
    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    The government estimates that there were around 265,000 PSCs in 2012-13, an
    increase of 65,000 on the previous year alone.
    An increase of 65,000 on that fabricated figure from the HoL committee report more like

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      #12
      Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
      An increase of 65,000 on that fabricated figure from the HoL committee report more like
      It does have a disclaimer to say the figures are entirely fictitious.

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        #13
        Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
        Give that man a gold star

        It's for responses that we're putting in for various HMRC consultations and discussions - oh what a fun life I lead
        I guessed that - just wondered the angle as you're a brolly lady. Hoping you're not going to sell us out!

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          #14
          Someone put a FOI request in to Scarborough Council asking...

          How many members of staff were paid through personal service companies? amongst other questions. Thought this might be useful to you.

          Linky

          Personal Service Companies | SCARBOROUGH.GOV.UK
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            #15
            Originally posted by ASB View Post
            Lisa,

            Does this help at all ? There are various stats in there, but they look as though they may be defining "wider" than you are looking for.

            https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...-release-4.pdf

            "There were 1.4 million companies, of which 789,000 (56.5 per cent) had employees"

            So approx 600,000 which fit the "definition" such as it is for PSC. How many of these are contracting no idea. :-(
            but how many are trading? or investment vehicles (or whatever the jargon is)?

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              #16
              Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
              The government estimates that there were around 265,000 PSCs in 2012-13, an increase of 65,000 on the previous year alone.
              Wow, have to admit I thought it was vastly more than that. Guess it depends massively on whether things like one man band plumbers/accountants, freelance web designers etc are included, or whether it's just what we would call "contractors".

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                #17
                Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                I guessed that - just wondered the angle as you're a brolly lady. Hoping you're not going to sell us out!
                I am a brolly lady but I've also been in this industry a long time and I think that basing all future legislation on SDC rather than the standard employment tests is an absolute nonsense so we'll be responding to the T&S consultation and then to the IR35 discussion to say as much. When you're responding to HMRC they do like facts and figures rather than just a photo of you stamping your feet and shouting 'it's not fair' so I need as much info as possible. Personally I think that HMRC would be much better off moving away from employment law and just sticking with numbers. For instance, they're saying that too many people are getting tax relief under T&S rules as loads of low paid workers have been moved to umbrella's - then why not just make a rule which says if you earn less than living wage + 20% you can't be paid through an intermediary - problem solved - simples!
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
                  then why not just make a rule which says if you earn less than living wage + 20% you can't be paid through an intermediary - problem solved - simples!
                  "tory's approve tax breaks to all except the lowest earners"

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by pr1 View Post
                    "tory's approve tax breaks to all except the lowest earners"
                    And what makes you think they'd have a problem with that? Standard operating procedure for them.
                    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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                      #20
                      you shouldn't be punished for earning a low wage

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