No To Retro Tax - Ongoing battle against S58 FA2008

[WhiteCat]

Go for it

We don't want to look back in a few months and think, jesus, if only we'd acted sooner.

Yep - I reckon we're ready. Let's not be overconfident yet, as there's a way to go, but good to be on the front foot. Interesting that we were considering abandoning this forum a few weeks ago and it's anything but stale now . . . !

[bananarepublic]

Hi,
after all the Fraud scare I'm thinking of backing out of the review & ftt as robbers & crooks have
done nothing honest - misled parliament, lied in court etc, no end to their malice, and an endless pool
of career climbing apes that can be corrupted by them -offering sweet deals to judges.
Sorry for the negativity - all looking too scary for me now, since I want to continue being freelance, although
been out of work for nearly a year - can't really take the risk! And, after all didn't we follow QC advice
in the first place. Who would have thought the time machine existed, no-one can tell what low
levels the R&C will scoop too.

This is precisely why they came up with the fraud angle!! It is obviously a big decision to strike out on our own and HMRC know that many people are worried by the prospect.

Thing is as I see it there is no way the Huitson argument can win as ultimately the courts have to consider the will of parliament, which after S58 is quite clear. You have to ask the question whether you are more scared of paying up or of (probably baseless) HMRC scare tactics?

[DonkeyRhubarb]

36 new members so far this month.

In addition to the 57 last month.

[elpinar]

out of interst

Do you know in general roughly what % NI comes in at on top of what they have sent out ?eg 5% more - 10% etc etc

Just want to know the full figures of the 'fight'

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Yep - I reckon we're ready. Let's not be overconfident yet, as there's a way to go, but good to be on the front foot. Interesting that we were considering abandoning this forum a few weeks ago and it's anything but stale now . . . !

Absolutely.

Remember when we thought the High Court, then the Court of Appeal, then the Supreme Court were going to come to our rescue.

I'm not counting any chickens just yet.

[tendo71]

What would you do in their position?

I take your point.

What would I do? Look to settle as they did with George.

[elpinar]

also ... for eg

for tax year 04/05 - you had to get your self ass in by ?jan 1 06? - was tax due on that date or later in the year ?

[smalldog]

and we have been criticised before for not taking decisive legal action which went against us in the JR. So lets get the wagons rolling!!

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Do you know in general roughly what % NI comes in at on top of what they have sent out ?eg 5% more - 10% etc etc

Just want to know the full figures of the 'fight'

The additional Class 4 NIC is just under 5%.

The accrued interest is the real killer though.

2001/2 - 64%
2002/3 - 57%
2003/4 - 51%
2004/5 - 44%
2005/6 - 37%
2006/7 - 30%
2007/8 - 22%

[elpinar]

The additional Class 4 NIC is just under 5%.

The accrued interest is the real killer though.

2001/2 - 64%
2002/3 - 57%
2003/4 - 51%
2004/5 - 44%
2005/6 - 37%
2006/7 - 30%
2007/8 - 22%

ekk