Originally posted by teapot418
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IR35 - Guilty as charged! - Updated May 2016 - NOT GUILTY!
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Originally posted by teapot418 View PostPossibly we don't hear about the cases that close quickly or don't get off the starting blocks.
The MO now appears to be a "Check of Employer Records" which asks, along with copies of contracts etc, if you've considered IR35 and why you think it does not apply. Getting professional advice at this stage seems to be critical - anecdotally about a third of enquiries go no further. Some insurances cover this, some don't - technically it's not an investigation at this point, so check your small print.Originally posted by dx4100 View PostIPSE+ covers this ^Comment
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Originally posted by Contreras View PostAnd vanilla IPSE doesn't, afaik. That's important to note if it's the IR35 "cover" you're after.Comment
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Originally posted by dx4100 View PostJust re-read the whole thread as I missed it first time around...
I think some of the people having ago at him throughout the thread owe him an apology. Came here no doubt at the lowest point of his life and poster where arseholes with him.
FFS if we can't support each other during a IR35 investigation and stop being dicks when can we.
Shameful stuff...
Thanks to the OP for coming back and letting us know the outcome.
The lesson learnt from it for me, or not as I already do it, is use a IR35 specialist for legal and insurance AND an accountant who understand contractors.
PCG+ and Abbey Tax all the way for me...Comment
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Originally posted by dx4100 View PostJust re-read the whole thread as I missed it first time around...
I think some of the people having ago at him throughout the thread owe him an apology. Came here no doubt at the lowest point of his life and poster where arseholes with him.
FFS if we can't support each other during a IR35 investigation and stop being dicks when can we.
Shameful stuff...
Thanks to the OP for coming back and letting us know the outcome.
The lesson learnt from it for me, or not as I already do it, is use a IR35 specialist for legal and insurance AND an accountant who understand contractors.
PCG+ and Abbey Tax all the way for me...
I think this covers your first points.
"Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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Originally posted by dx4100 View PostJust re-read the whole thread as I missed it first time around...
I think some of the people having ago at him throughout the thread owe him an apology. Came here no doubt at the lowest point of his life and poster where arseholes with him.Comment
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Originally posted by DaveB View PostI think this covers your first points.
Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by Mister Clark View PostGlad u have a favourable outcome - well done.
Would you be prepared to post the questions they asked you?
Cheers, Mr C.Comment
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Originally posted by youngguy View PostJust out of interest:
What sort of Qs were directed to you? Was it Qs to ascertain SDC and MOO? Were there any other avenues they explored that night be considered surprising or irrelevant?
Do you have an example or two of things requested which you were not legally required to provide?
Did they contact your end Client(s)? If so do you know how they approached that and what they asked them?
The questions were varied and at times appeared innocent. They covered all the main points you'd expect about how many contracts? What did you do? Who did you report too? How did you work with staff, which office did you work in, did you have a desk etc etc. All pretty obvious for experienced IR35 people but worded to catch you out if you didn't know.
The one that really struck me was asking for end client contact details and then later asking for the agency details. The questions seemed innocent! We would have provided this but were advised (very clearly) that this was phishing and if we provided this information we were giving our permission for them to make direct contact. Our advisors basically ignored these questions and told HMRC to use the law to access this information - i.e. turn into an official IR35 investigation rather than the compliance route they were using.Comment
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Originally posted by missinggreenfields View PostFancy sharing the questions and which ones are optional?
Congratulations on the win - did they say "we think we're right, but we'll let you off" kind of thing, or was it a "we're wrong"? I think I know the answer to that questionComment
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