“tier 1” work visas to double Downing Street announced

[Paddy]

Wow, that's wide open, looks like the Indian PM is going to get exactly what he lobbied for 8(?) or so months ago.

2000 guys more possibly contracting and undercutting rates.

Whats not to like

Maybe they are parachuting them in, in the hope they will fill the gaps in the PS.

A few years ago I came across an example, He had a dubious degree, CCNA certification and a limited company set up by his "agent". He was a lazy little c . He then got the push and panicked and was asking other contractors how he can find another connect.

PS: forgot to mention that he was always on about his entrepreneurial skills in getting his visa

[stek]

Wow, that's wide open, looks like the Indian PM is going to get exactly what he lobbied for 8(?) or so months ago.

2000 guys more possibly contracting and undercutting rates.

Whats not to like

Maybe they are parachuting them in, in the hope they will fill the gaps in the PS.

I don’t think you’ve read the guidance notes, it’s an EXTRA 1000 split over various disciplines I think 200 for tech- but I forgot, they’ll all be bringing their extended families and sacred cow over too (copyright: The Daily Mail)

[MrMarkyMark]

A few years ago I came across an example, He had a dubious degree, CCNA certification and a limited company set up by his "agent". He was a lazy little c . He then got the push and panicked and was asking other contractors how he can find another connect.

We had a small group that worked for one limited and shared PI insurance etc.

It used to be the case, that often these types of set ups leave and go back home, obviously not having paid everything they owe.

Don't know if it happens these days.

[MrMarkyMark]

I don’t think you’ve read the guidance notes, it’s an EXTRA 1000 split over various disciplines I think 200 for tech- but I forgot, they’ll all be bringing their extended families and sacred cow over too (copyright: The Daily Mail)

Fair enough, thanks, I was sounding a bit DM like then.

The thing related to this that really gets my goat, really gets my goat is 54% of secondary schools are not offering up Computer Science.


You couldn't make it up.

[eek]

Fair enough, thanks, I was sounding a bit DM like then.

The thing related to this that really gets my goat, really gets my goat is 54% of secondary schools are not offering up Computer Science.


You couldn't make it up.

They don't have the teachers to teach it - and its actually a very difficult course compared to the older information technology one.

Entertainly at the school the twins go to only 2 girls do computer science in a class of 24 (out of 200 pupils in the year). Care to guess who the 2 girls are....

[MrMarkyMark]

They don't have the teachers to teach it - and its actually a very difficult course compared to the older information technology one.

Entertainly at the school the twins go to only 2 girls do computer science in a class of 24 (out of 200 pupils in the year). Care to guess who the 2 girls are....

A problem with offering peanuts I guess.

When my Mrs. and I met, around 6 years ago, she had got to the final 3, out of 10,000 (!), for a Princes Trust, or some such, grant.
You had to write a business plan which had to be tech based and attend various workshops with people prior to meeting the Board of Directors.
If successful you got to go and work, fully funded, with various Silicon Valley institutions to try and build on your idea.

One of the things she had suggested especially given the Olympics etc. was to build on technical training, especially in East London.
She then said that anyone, providing they have the aptitude and correct level of training can be good at IT.
She's a good example of that having only being working in it for the last 12 years, before that she ran her own cosmetics business with her own products etc.

She ended up very disappointed, apparently they didn't like the criticism of the current status quo once she got in front of the board.
They said they were already doing plenty in that area and the asked her why she wasn't already in business herself doing it.

To me it had to be her criticism of nothing being done currently, otherwise I cannot see why she made the final 3 in the first place.

Kind of explains where we are, i.e. nowhere, 6 years later

[vetran]

a 1000 if they are truly of decent quality is probably a bonus.

Better than the 10,000 self employed big issue sellers etc.

not all immigration is bad.

[xoggoth]

You beat me to it V. Highly skilled migrants that advance our technology are what we need, not hordes of car washers, café workers etc. that are just taking our economy backwards, do not begin to pay their share of government spending and place huge pressures on our housing, schools and other resources.

[SueEllen]

You beat me to it V. Highly skilled migrants that advance our technology are what we need, not hordes of car washers, café workers etc. that are just taking our economy backwards, do not begin to pay their share of government spending and place huge pressures on our housing, schools and other resources.

Car washers are normally modern day slaves.

[Hobosapien]

54% of secondary schools are not offering up Computer Science.

Of those offering it maybe it's not that popular either. Overheard a woman on the train the other weekend going on about how her daughter had to go into the computer science class as her first choice wasn't available (presumably oversubscribed or she wasn't of standard), and as she hadn't chosen to take the class she was being ignored by the teacher so was unlikely to pass anyway.

Back in my day, at the dawn of home computing, there was a draw for the 30 odd computer studies places as nearly all the pupils wanted to go on it as it was so new. Some of the girls that made the cut seemed to spend lots of time doing ascii art from what I remember, maybe they could't get onto the art class.