Public sector IR35 consultation launched

[malvolio]

Ms Rovnick is acting editor at thr FT. Don't suppose she's a freelance, do you... :😝

[DotasScandal]

I thought that is what IPSE is doing?

[eek]

+1... Reading the FT article I'm not 100% IPSE know exactly what the arguments are and what the problems will be....

[malvolio]

+1... Reading the FT article I'm not 100% IPSE know exactly what the arguments are and what the problems will be....

The problem is primarily a journalist working for a paper specialising in financial affairs who has no idea of finances (can't comment on affairs...) and will not be told the difference between corporate and personal income. Work out how to get that message across to the press and HMG and you'll be a hero...

Meanwhile take no notice of that particular article, it's largely meaningless.

[WordIsBond]

The problem is primarily a journalist working for a paper specialising in financial affairs who has no idea of finances (can't comment on affairs...) and will not be told the difference between corporate and personal income. Work out how to get that message across to the press and HMG and you'll be a hero...

Meanwhile take no notice of that particular article, it's largely meaningless.

You yourself stated why it isn't meaningless -- because it propagates the confused messages upon which the decision makers (HMG, HMRC) are acting.

[DotasScandal]

+1... Reading the FT article I'm not 100% IPSE know exactly what the arguments are and what the problems will be....

These days IPSE seems more concerned with collecting membership fees and distinguishing "freelancers of the year" - and other such silly, meaningless PR stuff.
When it comes to hard lobbying on core topics, in defense of the livelihood of its members, curiously IPSE seems nowhere to be found.

Happy to be proven wrong.

[eek]

These days IPSE seems more concerned with collecting membership fees and distinguishing "freelancers of the year" - and other such silly, meaningless PR stuff.
When it comes to hard lobbying on core topics, in defense of the livelihood of its members, curiously IPSE seems nowhere to be found.

Happy to be proven wrong.

your cynicism seems almost as large as my own.

I will repeat my advice from earlier in this thread, plan your escape route from contracting now before the stampede begins

[mudskipper]

These days IPSE seems more concerned with collecting membership fees and distinguishing "freelancers of the year" - and other such silly, meaningless PR stuff.
When it comes to hard lobbying on core topics, in defense of the livelihood of its members, curiously IPSE seems nowhere to be found.

Happy to be proven wrong.

Well it's difficult to 'prove' what effect lobbying and campaigning has, but if you read the IPSE forums (member only content) just yesterday it was announced that IPSE won 'BIS Sector Representation of the Year' for the efforts in preventing T&S withdrawal from affecting ltd co contractors operating outside of IR35.

https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...-awards.111513

There is also a thread inviting people to participate in a round table with HRMC on the public sector proposals.

https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...-sector.111511

These are core topics for the contractor community. So what is IPSE not doing that you think it should be?

[eek]

Well it's difficult to 'prove' what effect lobbying and campaigning has, but if you read the IPSE forums (member only content) just yesterday it was announced that IPSE won 'BIS Sector Representation of the Year' for the efforts in preventing T&S withdrawal from affecting ltd co contractors operating outside of IR35.

https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...-awards.111513

There is also a thread inviting people to participate in a round table with HRMC on the public sector proposals.

https://community.ipse.co.uk/threads...-sector.111511

These are core topics for the contractor community. So what is IPSE not doing that you think it should be?

I hope to God you are vetting the contractors off to an HMRC round table - been there, done that, sat cringing whilst wishing I could kick people under the table to STFU...

As for the T&S award - if you say so..... - we can argue the point but, even though I say so myself, the document I sent with arguments and suggestions does rather match the end result and reasons given for said result...

[ChampionChris]

HMRC research understand the implications for employers and engagers if they were given responsibility for operating the intermediaries legislation

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ative-research