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NHS issues with 'rip off' agencies and expensive agency workers

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    #11
    Generally a - no sick, holiday, pension, grievance, training, paternity, notice period etc. Gets the great unwashed to STFU when they bang the rich contractor line...
    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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      #12
      Originally posted by Zero Liability View Post
      It's part and parcel of this whole "demonise the rich" class warfare thing that even outfits like The Telegraph are now engaged in, i.e. shallow attempts to drum up hostility towards those helping to cope with the long term planning/budgeting issues plaguing the NHS, because it "offends" the authors' delicate journalistic sensibilities and likely those of their intended audiences too.
      Couldn't agree more - success used to be applauded in this country but now it's all about 'fairness' and 'equality' - well use of the words anyway
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        #13
        http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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          #14
          Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
          Couldn't agree more - success used to be applauded in this country but now it's all about 'fairness' and 'equality' - well use of the words anyway
          Equality is unfair. That's why it'll never stick. We'll just beat ourselves up trying to achieve that contradictory state until we grow up a bit.

          It took us just one meeting to discover that we had become beggars – rotten, whining, sniveling beggars, all of us, because no man could claim his pay as his rightful earning, he had no rights and no earnings, his work didn’t belong to him, it belonged to ‘the family’, and they owed him nothing in return, and the only claim he had on them was his ‘need’ – so he had to beg in public for relief from his needs, like any lousy moocher, listing all his troubles and miseries, down to his patched drawers and his wife’s head colds, hoping that ‘the family’ would throw him the alms. He had to claim miseries, because it’s miseries, not work, that had become the coin of the realm – so it turned into a contest between six thousand panhandlers, each claiming that his need was worse than his brother’s. How else could it be done? Do you care to guess what happened, what sort of men kept quiet, feeling shame, and what sort got away with the jackpot?
          Last edited by SpontaneousOrder; 16 October 2015, 10:35.

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            #15
            “If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders - What would you tell him?"

            I…don't know. What…could he do? What would you tell him?"

            To shrug.”
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              #16
              Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
              “If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders - What would you tell him?"

              I…don't know. What…could he do? What would you tell him?"

              To shrug.”
              I see it coming. With the producers feeling some misconceived obligation to sponsor the more numerous less productive/net consumers to breed more consumers, without economic concern, there will come a point where those producers just decide it isn't worth it anymore.

              Regression at worst, stagnation at best. Progress unlikely.

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                #17
                I could write a book on the NHS and whats wrong with it (from a contractors point of view in I.T.)

                I have just done 2 years as a migration engineer for a couple of large southern based trust, and worked for (in a total of ) 3 Hospital Trust. The land where nothing gets done anytime soon, where contractors do a LOT of the work, whilst permies shoot the breeze, where since they got rid of all the contractors NOTHING gets done. Managers have endless meetings about meetings, then more meetings about errrr meetings. Project managers climb the slippery pole and only survive as PM`s because they have little ability and would find it difficult to survive in the real world. Oh and one of the best blame cultures I have experienced. There is more than a lot wrong, meanwhile the clinical staff get less and less, and are expected to perform more and more. TBH I am glad to be out of it. Would I work in it as a permie ? NOT A CHANCE !

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Yonmons View Post
                  I could write a book on the NHS and whats wrong with it (from a contractors point of view in I.T.)

                  I have just done 2 years as a migration engineer for a couple of large southern based trust, and worked for (in a total of ) 3 Hospital Trust. The land where nothing gets done anytime soon, where contractors do a LOT of the work, whilst permies shoot the breeze, where since they got rid of all the contractors NOTHING gets done. Managers have endless meetings about meetings, then more meetings about errrr meetings. Project managers climb the slippery pole and only survive as PM`s because they have little ability and would find it difficult to survive in the real world. Oh and one of the best blame cultures I have experienced. There is more than a lot wrong, meanwhile the clinical staff get less and less, and are expected to perform more and more. TBH I am glad to be out of it. Would I work in it as a permie ? NOT A CHANCE !
                  Plenty like that in the private sector, too.
                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #19
                    My Mrs is a nurse and the use of bank/agency is widespread. Why? Because they don't employ enough nurses to start with so as soon as someone goes sick they're screwed. Also, sometimes things are so badly managed nurses think stuff it Im pulling a sickie.

                    Unfortunately, if you're a nurse who takes advantage of agency work the general consensus is you're screwing the NHS funds. There are a lot of people out there who seem to think that you should do it for free I'm sure. But they'd be the first to moan if they can't have an op because the trust havent got staff to cover.
                    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      My Mrs is a nurse and the use of bank/agency is widespread. Why? Because they don't employ enough nurses to start with so as soon as someone goes sick they're screwed. Also, sometimes things are so badly managed nurses think stuff it Im pulling a sickie.

                      Unfortunately, if you're a nurse who takes advantage of agency work the general consensus is you're screwing the NHS funds. There are a lot of people out there who seem to think that you should do it for free I'm sure. But they'd be the first to moan if they can't have an op because the trust havent got staff to cover.
                      I already said that

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