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    Broken XP help

    For the people that know more about this stuff than me:

    My graphics card (ATI Radeon) has been playing up. It sometimes shows crap over the screen when it starts up, but it usually goes away after a little while. So I decided I'd install the newer driver. Big msitake.

    Installed, rebooted, crashed. Then I rebooted again and it worked, except the graphics were hideously slow (dragging windows would wipe down the screen in a way I haven't seen for 10 years). Next day, wouldn't boot at all, no matter what. It did boot into safe mode, but not safe mode with networking (which makes me suspect networking). I then rolled the system back to a previous configuration (and another one before that for good measure), but that didn't help. I've also pulled out and uninstalled drivers for the two network cards and installed an old graphics card, with no change.

    So then I went back to the XP CD and ran a repair, except that doesn't boot either (BSOD), and now if I boot into safe mode it says "setup cannot run in safe mode", and shuts down.

    I've now installed a new XP install in a different dir, and that's working fine, which to me rules out anything terrible with the hardware. Of course it'll be a PITA getting everything setup again, and I really want my old install back. I'm guessing it's a service in the old install that's at fault, but how do I find out what?

    Any suggestions?
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

    #2
    Don't have any great advice I'm afraid except in future:

    1. Have more than one partition or hard disk and always store your system files and programs on one and all your data files etc on the other.

    2. Regularly (like weekly) run something like Norton Ghost so you can recover back to a known working state.

    3. Always pray when making driver and hardware changes.

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      #3
      Sounds like you've tinkered yourself into a pigs breakfast.

      Boot into safe mode.
      Uninstall the Network card and its drivers.
      Power off
      Physically remove the Network card.
      Power back on in Safe Mode
      Uninstall the ATI card and its drivers.
      Power off
      If you have onboard video, then physically remove the ATI video card.
      Power back on (Normal mode) and see what happens

      I'm bored with this now,

      G'night and good luck

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        #4
        I 2nd everything toad says

        It's just the usual windoze thing, take out the glass ,the beading, the frames and and lintels. THen see if the house is still standing. If so then put them back 1 at a time.

        One thing when you re-install the ATI driver grab an old one !
        Your parents ruin the first half of your life and your kids ruin the second half

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          #5
          Originally posted by Toad
          Sounds like you've tinkered yourself into a pigs breakfast.

          Boot into safe mode.
          Uninstall the Network card and its drivers.
          Power off
          Physically remove the Network card.
          Power back on in Safe Mode
          Uninstall the ATI card and its drivers.
          Power off
          If you have onboard video, then physically remove the ATI video card.
          Power back on (Normal mode) and see what happens
          Except I can't boot into safe mode (says "setup cannot run in safe mode" and shuts down).

          All my important stuff was on a second hard disk, so I haven't lost anything. I do have one immediate problem which is I need to use Excel (to generate an invoice), and I don't have a proper office install (borrowed one off an old company a couple of years back), so for that reason I could really do with getting the old install up and running.

          Assuming I can't, does anybody know if/how I get my old emails back that were saved in Outlook Express?

          I used to be pretty clued up on all this stuff back in the days of NT4, but I moved away from doing any kind of IT support and my skills are now a bit out of date.
          Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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            #6
            Search the net for something called super disk or similar. It will boot XP from CD and create a virtual RAM drive and will give an option for safe mode. You can the play all day with it. The disk bypasses all security. (there is no security with Microsoft products)
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              #7
              ATI cards are notorious for crap silicon and crap drivers.

              Throw the card in the bin (or ebay it) and stick either a mid-range Nvidia card in or an old Matrox G400 if all you do is 2D work.

              My nice P4-3.6 workstation has a circa 2001 Matrox G450 32Mb dual head card in it that cost about £15 second hand.
              Serving religion with the contempt it deserves...

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                #8
                Originally posted by DimPrawn
                3. Always pray when making driver and hardware changes.
                Hence plug and pray.

                Amen

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                  #9
                  Excel?

                  Dump excel and stick openoffice on.

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                    #10
                    thinking out loud

                    May be too late for Last Known Good Configuration menu option.

                    There are free rescue CDs that you can boot from

                    Boot from the XP CD and go with the Recovery Console. Disable the 'bad' drivers. in the registry cancel pending actions (the setup)

                    MAYBE holding Shift whilst Windows GUI is booting.

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