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    MySQL v PostgreSQL

    Why do so many sites and apps still use MySQL when PostgreSQL is also free and, in many if not most respects, better?
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    #2
    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Why do so many sites and apps still use MySQL when PostgreSQL is also free and, in many if not most respects, better?
    I don't know much about postgres, but with MySQL, you can do clustering, replication and is more industry standard than postgres.
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      #3
      MySQL is much more widely installed on standard (i.e. cheap) virtual server web hosting. I think that's because, for a while around ten years ago, MySQL was actually more advanced and stable than Postgres.

      Anyway, it depends on the criteria by which one defines "better". If, for example, one is doing a GIS app then Postgres is much better than MySQL, whose geospatial extensions do Euclidean calculations of things like distance between points rather than dealing with the anomalies arising from the shape of the Earth. But in other ways, MySQL could well be better, even if only in the sense of an organisation having a lot of experience with it. The team at Flickr do remarkable things with it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by pmeswani View Post
        I don't know much about postgres, but with MySQL, you can do clustering, replication and is more industry standard than postgres.
        +1

        Though I hear that Postgress is enjoying a bit of a revival due to Oracle messing with MySQL, I am also seeing more use of Hadoop based databases, with additions to allow it to hold and manipulate structured data.
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          #5
          Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
          MySQL is much more widely installed on standard (i.e. cheap) virtual server web hosting. I think that's because, for a while around ten years ago, MySQL was actually more advanced and stable than Postgres.
          I started using PostgreSQL (to give it its now official moniker) about 6 years ago. At the time it wasn't officially supported on OS X, but I grabbed the sources, got a clean compile at the first attempt and it passed all the tests. If I remember correctly MySQL didn't have transaction capability at that stage, and I wanted to use that.

          At that time I preferred the PostgreSQL documentation to the MySQL stuff too. I haven't compared them lately.

          I looked into comparison benchmarks a few years ago, but too much of the stuff I found on the interwebs was comparing a well tuned installation of one with an out-of-the-box-defaults installation of the other.

          Anyone who has seen what happened to other software products after being taken over by Oracle has a right to feel twitchy. In the case I am familiar with prices shot up and the run time libraries no longer came as part of the OS. That was fine for MegaBank Inc, but not for many smaller companies, nor the software houses who developed for them.

          Oracle's handling of OpenOffice didn't bode well.

          I'd like to know the real reasons Apple switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL. I suspect that steering clear of involvement with Oracle was the primary reason.
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            #6
            Originally posted by portseven View Post
            +1

            Though I hear that Postgress is enjoying a bit of a revival due to Oracle messing with MySQL, I am also seeing more use of Hadoop based databases, with additions to allow it to hold and manipulate structured data.
            Jeez, I didn't know Oracle had taken over MySQL

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              #7
              Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
              Jeez, I didn't know Oracle had taken over MySQL
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                #8
                I have heard it said many times that postgesql is the faster one but the tools set up for postgresql were pretty crap if I am being honest. I have a comfort zone with using GUIs on the database rather than going commando with command line. THe more advaned the gui is probably one of my main judgment crireria for DB technology.

                Now, when mySQL was taken on by SUN it was a natural fit, when mySQL went into proper database teritory with stored procs I honestly believe that Oracle shat a brick and bought SUN to hinder mySQL, what with plenty of big start ups going on about using mySQL.

                THe old mySQL GUI was a great, then they upgaded it to a pile of cack. was that down to oracle?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  I have heard it said many times that postgesql is the faster one but the tools set up for postgresql were pretty crap if I am being honest. I have a comfort zone with using GUIs on the database rather than going commando with command line. THe more advaned the gui is probably one of my main judgment crireria for DB technology.
                  That's possibly why it became so popular in the first place. The typical ISP Control Panel makes creating MySQL databases a doddle, and many folks don't need much more than that.

                  I prefer the command line interface to many of the GUIs I have come across, so PostgreSQL wasn't a hassle for me.

                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  Now, when mySQL was taken on by SUN it was a natural fit, when mySQL went into proper database teritory with stored procs I honestly believe that Oracle shat a brick and bought SUN to hinder mySQL, what with plenty of big start ups going on about using mySQL.

                  THe old mySQL GUI was a great, then they upgaded it to a pile of cack. was that down to oracle?
                  I'm not sure that Oracle shat a brick, but they certainly wanted to get their hands on MySQL.
                  Last edited by Sysman; 27 October 2012, 13:12.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    I have heard it said many times that postgesql is the faster one but the tools set up for postgresql were pretty crap if I am being honest. I have a comfort zone with using GUIs on the database rather than going commando with command line. THe more advaned the gui is probably one of my main judgment crireria for DB technology.

                    Now, when mySQL was taken on by SUN it was a natural fit, when mySQL went into proper database teritory with stored procs I honestly believe that Oracle shat a brick and bought SUN to hinder mySQL, what with plenty of big start ups going on about using mySQL.

                    THe old mySQL GUI was a great, then they upgaded it to a pile of cack. was that down to oracle?
                    What MySQL GUI? I command line when I have to but over the last couple of years have been using SQLyog - can't live without it now.

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