Internet on Trains

[fullyautomatix]

And while we're on the subject, how is internet delivered to the train?
About 10 years ago a friend of mine did first trial installations, they were using gyroscopic ally stabilised dishes and satellite uplink at ca £1mil per train and the Internet was slow with high latency.
How is it done nowadays?

I think they use carrier pigeons, but do not quote me on that.

[minestrone]

I get on the east coast every day and internet is fine, mind you there are bugger all people on it between Glasgow and Edinburgh.

On how it works? If you look there are little alcatel boxes on the side of the engines. I assume they are just mobiles really, blame the mobile operators as they cannot provide a decent speed, it is not the train operators who are the weak link.

[escapeUK]

Would suspect that the ports you need open are shut and they are just allowing web browsing / e-mail through.

[vandiss]

I get on the east coast every day and internet is fine, mind you there are bugger all people on it between Glasgow and Edinburgh.

How does this service compare to Scotrail's (via Falkirk)? O2's 3G coverage on that line is crap, would be great if Scotrail brought in WiFi - even Citylink buses have it, FFS!

[centurian]

Ports can be one thing - but I've also had issues with some places (hotels etc.) using a double-NATing that the Cisco VPN Server didn't like.

Basically identifying my computer as a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend etc. which got it's knickers in a twist.

In theory it should still work, but none of us could be arsed to work out why given the advent of 3G dongles.

Some 3G dongles can be very fussy on trains for a variety of reasons (Faraday cage, 25Kv of electricity, contention with everyone chatting) whereas a voice call uses considerably less bandwidth.

[The Wikir Man]

For some reason, the T-mobile service on this train has identified me as being in Germany - so no BBC videos, and Google is in German.

Ort der IP Adresse: Bonn in Germany	
ISP: T-Mobile Deutschland GmbH

[minestrone]

How does this service compare to Scotrail's (via Falkirk)?

Purely on the train service? I much prefer it, carriages are much quieter, less stops, trains a cleaner and the staff don't have the attitude that scotrail staff do. Plus there is the bar in the evening. Usually more reliable as there are fewer trains on that line.

[Lumiere]

For some reason, the T-mobile service on this train has identified me as being in Germany - so no BBC videos, and Google is in German.

EastCoast's internet is from Sweden, you get redirected to google.se

[Lumiere]

On how it works? If you look there are little alcatel boxes on the side of the engines. I assume they are just mobiles really, blame the mobile operators as they cannot provide a decent speed, it is not the train operators who are the weak link.

They should have invested in satellite internet

[minestrone]

They should have invested in satellite internet

Would that even be possible on a tilting, shifting, vibrating train doing 125 through trees and tunnels?