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    #11
    Unless the shower is very old or used lots and lots and lots, it is most likely that the motor has burned out causing the brushes to wear out.

    If the commutator shows signs of burning I would forget the brushes and buy a new shower.

    I speak from experience - you would not believe how many people insist on buying brushes for their lawnmowers, drills etc even when you tell them it is most likely burnt out. You usually see them back later looking for a new motor.

    Worth trying to find suitable brushes at a local power tool repair place - at the very least they will have something that can be filed down.
    Back at the coal face

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      #12
      hey al_cam, ever work at compaq?

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        #13
        Need to do a root cause analysis.
        Obsolete pump. Pretty old eh?
        Maybe the original brushes have been worn down to the
        metal bit behind them at some stage.
        That really wrecks the commutators. which will then chew your new handiwork...........chuck out....
        RS (showing just how much drinking time I've wasted inside a washing machine)

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          #14
          Originally posted by RSoles View Post
          Need to do a root cause analysis.
          Obsolete pump. Pretty old eh?
          Maybe the original brushes have been worn down to the
          metal bit behind them at some stage.
          That really wrecks the commutators. which will then chew your new handiwork...........chuck out....
          RS (showing just how much drinking time I've wasted inside a washing machine)
          Wot I do is disasemble motor, stick the central thingie in a pillar drill, use abrasive paper on the bit the brushes touch (commuter?) while rotating in the drill ,then clean up the slots in the bit the brushes touch with a needle file.
          Fit new brushes

          Worked on washing machine (2 years & going strong)
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #15
            Originally posted by al_cam View Post
            If the commutator shows signs of burning I would forget the brushes and buy a new shower.
            Surely all commutator 's will show signs of burning from arcing?
            Last edited by Troll; 20 August 2007, 08:26.
            How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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              #16
              Originally posted by zeitghost
              Especially if they touch the 3rd rail....
              Hmmmmm, crispy!

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                #17
                Originally posted by scotspine View Post
                hey al_cam, ever work at compaq?
                I couldn't possibly answer that question.

                ...I have PM'd you.

                Note to self - don't post anything useful. Stick to drivel.
                Back at the coal face

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Troll View Post
                  Surely all commutator 's will show signs of burning from arcing?
                  Not really. A burnt out motor looks very burnt whereas a normal one looks pretty clean apart from a line around it where the brushes run.
                  That said, if the brushes are well worn out then arcing is greater so it could look a bit more burnt. I would look at the insulation between the segments - if this is shot then it will probably be burnt out.

                  I guess this is something of a black art and not worth the OP spending a few months in a repair shop to learn.
                  Back at the coal face

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by al_cam View Post
                    I couldn't possibly answer that question.

                    ...I have PM'd you.

                    Note to self - don't post anything useful. Stick to drivel.
                    sussed your true identity!

                    You have a very nice guitar (a Taylor IIRC) and live in the adjoining town to me.

                    Am I right?

                    Its a small world - drop me a line, would be good to catch up.
                    Back at the coal face

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by al_cam View Post
                      I couldn't possibly answer that question.

                      ...I have PM'd you.

                      Note to self - don't post anything useful. Stick to drivel.
                      What compaq near the airport, inchinnan like? That's where I....
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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