Website promotion

**xoggoth** · 29 July 2004, 09:02

Interested to know as well. I never had much luck either with free submissions.The site is starting to come up now after about four months but as far as I can see this is just bot activity.

**fiddleabout** · 29 July 2004, 11:08

AtW posted a load of stuff about this a while back - do a search here. Then ignore everything he suggested and do what I suggested instead.

It works for me ...

site:www.kwikbreaks.co.uk on google

and AtW doesn't even have a website.

If you can't find it I'll email a brief (very) summary of the things you should consider if you send me a pmsg.

P.S. Forget metatags.
P.P.S. I don't submit my sites to any search engines now.

**rabisco** · 29 July 2004, 19:45

Fiddle,
I can find my website using the site.url in google, but not via using the metatag keywords.

**fiddleabout** · 30 July 2004, 09:38

I've replied to your pmsg now - only just seen it.

IMO Google does things in stages ...

First the bots crawl the page and index it. Later they make ranking decisions. It takes up to a month after it is first crawled to be fully set in it's rankings and properly found in searches. Any changes you make to improve things take a while to filter through. Patience is essential. They do things differently for highly dynamic sites (news etc.) because they show up very quickly.

One thing I've noticed with several new sites of mine was that I could find them OK with a search very soon after being first crawled. Then they vanished for several days. Then reappeared.

My take on that is that google have a huge "production" database.
Over a period (probably a month) they build a "new stuff" database.
The search looks at both "production" and "new".
Periodically they operate on the "production" only with a cleared down "new" and offline they merge "production" and the old "new"
Eventually the switch the old "production" for the new one created by the merge process.

That might be complete tosh but one thing is certain - there's a lot of sophisticated code behind google.

Post up a link if you like - there's no charge

JS · 2 August 2004, 21:01

Google keywords are not to bad if you;ve got cash.
HOWEVER in my own experience it is much more cost-effective to promote your website in the traditional media.

Tell us what your target market is.

**reynolds** · 15 August 2004, 06:44

re

How many unique hits/month do you get to kwikbreaks.co.uk fiddleabout?

**fiddleabout** · 18 August 2004, 12:22

Re: re

AWstats - It comes out scrambled from the paste and I can't be @rsed to fix it up. This is July and August to date summaries.

August is down on last year because it's been pissing down for the last two weeks and the site advertises campsites...

First visit Summary Last visit
01 Jul 2004 - 00:00 Month Jul 2004 31 Jul 2004 - 23:59
Unique visitors Number of visits Pages Hits Bandwidth
Viewed traffic * 39004
64463
(1.65 visits/visitor) 643468
(9.98 pages/visit) 2253520
(34.95 hits/visit) 6.20 GB
(100.9 KB/visit)
Not viewed traffic *
23679 26416 143.85 MB

* Not viewed trafic is trafic generated by robots, worms or answers with special HTTPstatus code.

First visit Summary Last visit
01 Aug 2004 - 00:00 Month Aug 2004 18 Aug 2004 - 12:20
Unique visitors Number of visits Pages Hits Bandwidth
Viewed traffic * 27098
42027
(1.55 visits/visitor) 408465
(9.71 pages/visit) 1503886
(35.78 hits/visit) 4.23 GB
(105.62 KB/visit)
Not viewed traffic *
40797 41367 60.70 MB

* Not viewed trafic is trafic generated by robots, worms or answers with special HTTPstatus code.

Website promotion