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    #11
    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    And thats the key - we still get reporting requirements for one of the legacy systems we have had in place for ten years - to expect to be able to get exactly what you need defined upfront and for it not to change is naive i reckon.

    In addition if you give people too much data and to many reports then they loose all value and if you simply give them a data warehouse with everything in then 1000's of hours will be spent creating reports nobody cares about.

    Ideally you need to give people just enough to give them the info they need to do the job they need to do.....

    Well that's my view anyway.
    Works out very well for some
    The Chunt of Chunts.

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      #12
      Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
      Works out very well for some
      Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

      Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

      Me - ok what are you going to do with it? How is it going to help you drive business efficiencies and what operational process are you looking to change/update to support this.

      Them -

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        #13
        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

        Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

        Me - ok what are you going to do with it? How is it going to help you drive business efficiencies and what operational process are you looking to change/update to support this.

        Them -
        Ah the good old ‘I work in IT and I’m going to tell you how to run your business because I’m an expert’.

        Deliver it and STFU
        What happens in General, stays in General.
        You know what they say about assumptions!

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          #14
          FTFY

          Originally posted by original PM View Post
          Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

          Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

          Me - OK, that looks at quite a large bit of work, I can supply someone to do it for you.

          How does £700 PD sound?

          Them -
          The Chunt of Chunts.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
            FTFY



            You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

            So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
            Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
            Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

            Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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              #16
              Originally posted by eek View Post
              You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

              So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
              Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
              Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

              Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?



              10% extra for having to work with the Client Co team
              The Chunt of Chunts.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post


                10% extra for having to work with the Client Co team
                I would charge 20% for dealing with consultancies - it’s just not worth it. And the option of starting meeting 1 with could you explain what the feck were you thinking when doing this has already been vetoed.
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by eek View Post
                  I would charge 20% for dealing with consultancies - it’s just not worth it. And the option of starting meeting 1 with could you explain what the feck were you thinking when doing this has already been vetoed.

                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                    Ah the good old ‘I work in IT and I’m going to tell you how to run your business because I’m an expert’.

                    Deliver it and STFU
                    Interestingly I do not work in IT - we are a digital service delivery team!

                    But that is all about user needs and not head office wants.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by eek View Post
                      You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

                      So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
                      Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
                      Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

                      Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?
                      Missed one

                      Priority support with x days reserved...
                      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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