Probably easy networking question, and pubs

[LondonManc]

Thanks, but Apple Airport Extreme is not a router.

The BT hub thingy is an interesting idea, and I have a spare HH5 lying around, so I tried it. Switch off DHCP (not sure why this step is necessary if a different DHCP range is being used) and switch off the firewall. Plugged the WAN port of the HH5 into my network, but nada. Plugged one of its LAN ports into my network and it worked, but that of course means that the HH5 was just acting as a wireless access point, not a router.

The idea of using a router rather than a wireless access point to do this is to minimise the number of connections to the BT hub.

Make sense?

Don't think HH5 would work - isn't that the modem/router combo whereas HH3 is just the router?

[stek]

Don't think HH5 would work - isn't that the modem/router combo whereas HH3 is just the router?

Might need to look at MESH like on Aironet, looking quite complex now this!

Older Aironets are quite cheap now on eBay, not the fastest speeds etc, but professional kit...

[Yampy]

Hi Platypus, due to very thick stone walls in our cottage we needed better wireless coverage. I setup a Draytek vigor 2830n as my adsl wireless router and connected a Draytek Vigor ap810 access point placed at the other end of the cottage. The adsl router needed configured with my bt broadband details but the access point was totally plug and play. The setup was so simple and took all of 15 mins which was taken up by running the cable through the loft. The ssid's are set as draytek_A and draytek_B. easy for the kids and wife to connect to. they work great. No routing config to do no hassles.

[Platypus]

Might need to look at MESH like on Aironet, looking quite complex now this!

Older Aironets are quite cheap now on eBay, not the fastest speeds etc, but professional kit...

Liunky pls? I looked on eBay for Aironets but got 0 results. I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Hi Platypus ... No routing config to do no hassles.

Thanks, Yampy, but the issue at the pub is more complex due to the number of simultaneous connections. That's why I'm looking at additional routers rather than access points. I think.

[vetran]

the wireless router is a multifunction consumer level device designed for max 5 - 10 connections. It has a small CPU to keep the price down but it has to route, do DHCP & wireless.

You are looking for probably 30 + connections so really need to let the Router do Routing and get a proper access point on a static IP address to handle wireless DHCP & logins.

Basically you are asking a fiat 500 to carry a two ton load. To do it properly you need a 4*4 and a trailer.

Should be plenty of decent Cisco or similar multi band access points (I saw Draytek mentioned which are a good compromise) on ebay.


If they are using the same ADSL for credit cards they may well need slightly more security set up. Not something I'm into but What is PCI DSS?

Also remember if they download child porn on his network the Police are going to hold him responsible until they can be bothered to prove otherwise.

[stek]

Liunky pls? I looked on eBay for Aironets but got 0 results. I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Here's one, but there are loads. They're not latest tech. re: speed etc, but decent proper kit...

Cisco AIR-AP1131AG-E-K9 V04 Aironet Wireless Access Point | eBay

[SimonMac]

Don't think HH5 would work - isn't that the modem/router combo whereas HH3 is just the router?

I would echo this, I have a quick play at the weekend linking up my old sky router to my HH5 and it would just not play ball, not sure if its the Sky that is refusing to work with anything other than a direct ADSL connection, or the HH5 not giving a "WAN" IP address to the Sky Router but nothing from the Sky router would access the internet through the HH5 as the HH5 doesn't have a "modem only" mode

[WTFH]

I would echo this, I have a quick play at the weekend linking up my old sky router to my HH5 and it would just not play ball, not sure if its the Sky that is refusing to work with anything other than a direct ADSL connection, or the HH5 not giving a "WAN" IP address to the Sky Router but nothing from the Sky router would access the internet through the HH5 as the HH5 doesn't have a "modem only" mode

Which Sky router have you, what way did you reconfigure the Sky router, and what port on each router were you plugging in to?