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Previously on "F'ing NAS took a dump"

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  • SimonMac
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    Going for a 4 disk RAID10, need to work out if I should bother keeping the good 2TB drive in my existing NAS or not as its a fair few years old anyway

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  • vwdan
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    I also have a general dislike of raid 5 for media servers as it doesn't really offer anything that can't be achieved via a parity system (unraid / snapraid / grumpy) yet requires all disks to be installed at the same start point (resulting in compounded risk).
    Nobody should be using RAID5 for anything, ideally.

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  • vwdan
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    Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
    I took a look at the prices of this stuff and can't figure out why people would buy them. Is it just for the turnkey solution?

    I literally took a AMD machine out of a skip, put new memory and power supply on it and added a 4disk RAID. Than installed a linux distro and off I went. that was five years ago. Only issue I had is finding a small ATA disk as the boot drive is ATA. The raid disks are SATA.
    Turnkey, ease of use, partner-acceptance-factor and resilience. Most consumer RAID cards are tulipe and software raid is rarely the place to be, unless you're doing something with JBOD.

    If I wanted a NAS for the wife and I to store things on I'd go off the shelf, for sure.

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  • lilelvis2000
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    I took a look at the prices of this stuff and can't figure out why people would buy them. Is it just for the turnkey solution?

    I literally took a AMD machine out of a skip, put new memory and power supply on it and added a 4disk RAID. Than installed a linux distro and off I went. that was five years ago. Only issue I had is finding a small ATA disk as the boot drive is ATA. The raid disks are SATA.

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    I have a lot of Linux Distros but that is a bit OTT
    It's for my AIX, Oracle Solaris, and HP-UX Distros, honest....

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    I just acquired an Oracle ZFS Unified Storage Appliance, fingers crossed it will stop me buying second hand storage arrays....
    I have a lot of p0rn but that is a bit OTT

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  • stek
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    I just acquired an Oracle ZFS Unified Storage Appliance, fingers crossed it will stop me buying second hand storage arrays....

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    The PRO's are a bit out of my price range, was looking at the TS-469L which can be picked up for £400 diskless



    I want to avoid the microserver route, only want something simple to back up my various Mac's and store videos
    I know that. I was just pointing out to css_jay99 that the £100 servers are no more so they no longer have the major cash savings the £100 micro server offered.

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by css_jay99 View Post
    I have a synology 4 Disk NAs as well and have been looking at the QNAP-TS-469/70 pro but these babies are expensive.

    Suggestion on another forum was to dump the Synology/Qnap Nas and go for a HP microserver which is cheaper and faster.

    Are they good?
    The PRO's are a bit out of my price range, was looking at the TS-469L which can be picked up for £400 diskless

    Originally posted by eek View Post
    They used to be. I don't think the £100 microserver is available anymore...
    I want to avoid the microserver route, only want something simple to back up my various Mac's and store videos

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by css_jay99 View Post
    I have a synology 4 Disk NAs as well and have been looking at the QNAP-TS-469/70 pro but these babies are expensive.

    Suggestion on another forum was to dump the Synology/Qnap Nas and go for a HP microserver which is cheaper and faster.

    Are they good?
    They used to be. I don't think the £100 microserver is available anymore...

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  • css_jay99
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    My ReadyNas DUO is start to throw out warnings so the push to replaced it has been expedited.

    Current setup is ReadyNAS DUO v1 with 2 x 2tb drives in straight mirror running at about 80% utilised, used for Time Capsule backups from Mac Mini and MacBook Pro, also as a storage for iTunes on the MacMini, as about 1tb of videos on there, a pain in the arse if it goes but not the end of the world. Important stuff (photos etc) is backed upto 1.1tb of Dropbox space.

    I want to move to a 4 bay NAS in a RAID 5 config as I want read speed as the primary factor when I am pulling of HD films etc, looking at the QNAP TS-469L using 3TB WD Red HDD, bought from two different vendors to try and avoid any build quality errors from a bad batch.

    Anyone want to pick holes in my plan?
    I have a synology 4 Disk NAs as well and have been looking at the QNAP-TS-469/70 pro but these babies are expensive.

    Suggestion on another forum was to dump the Synology/Qnap Nas and go for a HP microserver which is cheaper and faster.

    Are they good?

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  • eek
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    You will need to buy two different brand of disks then to get any security over batch issues. 1 of each type from a computer shop and 1 from Amazon (on the basis that Amazon probably source globally)

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    different vendors at the same time won't solve anything as chances are they will be from the same distributor / shipment.

    I also have a general dislike of raid 5 for media servers as it doesn't really offer anything that can't be achieved via a parity system (unraid / snapraid / grumpy) yet requires all disks to be installed at the same start point (resulting in compounded risk).

    Given the price of that box is there not a quiet mini-itx computer you buy for the same money and install debian / arch or something on it...
    I'm after a noddy system, can't be arsed with micro tower and OS, just want it to tick along in the background

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    My ReadyNas DUO is start to throw out warnings so the push to replaced it has been expedited.

    Current setup is ReadyNAS DUO v1 with 2 x 2tb drives in straight mirror running at about 80% utilised, used for Time Capsule backups from Mac Mini and MacBook Pro, also as a storage for iTunes on the MacMini, as about 1tb of videos on there, a pain in the arse if it goes but not the end of the world. Important stuff (photos etc) is backed upto 1.1tb of Dropbox space.

    I want to move to a 4 bay NAS in a RAID 5 config as I want read speed as the primary factor when I am pulling of HD films etc, looking at the QNAP TS-469L using 3TB WD Red HDD, bought from two different vendors to try and avoid any build quality errors from a bad batch.

    Anyone want to pick holes in my plan?
    different vendors at the same time won't solve anything as chances are they will be from the same distributor / shipment.

    I also have a general dislike of raid 5 for media servers as it doesn't really offer anything that can't be achieved via a parity system (unraid / snapraid / grumpy) yet requires all disks to be installed at the same start point (resulting in compounded risk).

    Given the price of that box is there not a quiet mini-itx computer you buy for the same money and install debian / arch or something on it...
    Last edited by eek; 1 December 2014, 19:57.

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  • SimonMac
    replied
    My ReadyNas DUO is start to throw out warnings so the push to replaced it has been expedited.

    Current setup is ReadyNAS DUO v1 with 2 x 2tb drives in straight mirror running at about 80% utilised, used for Time Capsule backups from Mac Mini and MacBook Pro, also as a storage for iTunes on the MacMini, as about 1tb of videos on there, a pain in the arse if it goes but not the end of the world. Important stuff (photos etc) is backed upto 1.1tb of Dropbox space.

    I want to move to a 4 bay NAS in a RAID 5 config as I want read speed as the primary factor when I am pulling of HD films etc, looking at the QNAP TS-469L using 3TB WD Red HDD, bought from two different vendors to try and avoid any build quality errors from a bad batch.

    Anyone want to pick holes in my plan?

    Leave a comment:

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