Reply to: VPN / Proxy or Whatever

[VectraMan]

Yes, at the back of your pc/laptop/router you will see a network cable. Unplug it.

If you want to be really sure you should climb into a Faraday cage.

[TheFaQQer]

iPredator

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WIS - iPredator as a VPN solution

[petergriffin]

Any recommendations technical or paid for services that any of you have experience of?

Yes, at the back of your pc/laptop/router you will see a network cable. Unplug it.

[scooby]

Technically yes they would just see an encrypted tunnel connection. Legally, when using the VPN, my legal agreement is with relakks in sweden as they are providing my service providings.

It could raise a red flag, yet I havent had any letters yet. There are valid purposes for VPN's. I used to have to use one remoting in to the clients servers from home.

Want to PM a link?

[wim121]

So what would the brit gov see? Garbled traffic and nothing else? Surely they can decrypt VPN encryption and wouldnt you be waving a big arse red flag saying "look at me"...

Technically yes they would just see an encrypted tunnel connection. Legally, when using the VPN, my legal agreement is with relakks in sweden as they are providing my service providings.

It could raise a red flag, yet I havent had any letters yet. There are valid purposes for VPN's. I used to have to use one remoting in to the clients servers from home.

[scooby]

To Sweden. Swedish laws are the closest the world has to freedom of sharing material. I wouldnt class myself as a pirate but my usage may stretch the digital rights bill.

So what would the brit gov see? Garbled traffic and nothing else? Surely they can decrypt VPN encryption and wouldnt you be waving a big arse red flag saying "look at me"...

[wim121]

VPN to where, to protect yourself how? you would have to come out to the DMZ at some point, therfore encryption would be dropped from that point.

To Sweden. Swedish laws are the closest the world has to freedom of sharing material. I wouldnt class myself as a pirate but my usage may stretch the digital rights bill.

[scooby]

I use relakks .....

Now the question is, why are you using it?

If you are concerned with the digital rights bill, infringement letters, etc, then get a VPN service.

If you are concerned about your government eavesdropping on you a VPN service is a waste of money. All electronic communications globally have been monitored worldwide for over three decades.

Also regardless of what VPN service you use, if the UK authorities approach them and provide evidence that you may have committed a crime that carries a jail term, they have to hand over your logs.

The simple fact is it's very easy to monitor you if someone is so inclined to. VPN services can't offer any protection at all. If they are tapping/eavesdropping on you, you are already on their radar, too late sucker.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

VPN to where, to protect yourself how? you would have to come out to the DMZ at some point, therfore encryption would be dropped from that point.

[cojak]

Philosphical discussions for General please.

[wim121]

You think "they" haven't been eavesdropping that stuff already? I'd be amazed if "they" aren't already doing it.

They have been for a while. I'd like to see my file just out of curiosity but that wont ever happen.


What's amazing, is simple agencies like MI5 and the amount of storage they have available (enough for a multi page document on every UK citizen).

[wim121]

NB: Mr whippy was right .... Read up about echlon ....

[wim121]

Now that the Tories are planning on passing laws to allow eavesdropping on internet, email, texting etc, I'm thinking about having the ability to surf / email anonymously. Bugger all to hide just the principle of it.

Any recommendations technical or paid for services that any of you have experience of?

I use relakks .....

Now the question is, why are you using it?

If you are concerned with the digital rights bill, infringement letters, etc, then get a VPN service.

If you are concerned about your government eavesdropping on you a VPN service is a waste of money. All electronic communications globally have been monitored worldwide for over three decades.

Also regardless of what VPN service you use, if the UK authorities approach them and provide evidence that you may have committed a crime that carries a jail term, they have to hand over your logs.

The simple fact is it's very easy to monitor you if someone is so inclined to. VPN services can't offer any protection at all. If they are tapping/eavesdropping on you, you are already on their radar, too late sucker.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

[Cliphead]

iPredator

http://forums.contractoruk.com/techn...-numpties.html

Thank you, missed that one.

[Cliphead]

It's a bit late to be concerned about that now imo.

You think "they" haven't been eavesdropping that stuff already? I'd be amazed if "they" aren't already doing it.

Not in any rush to implement anything.

This is technical so if you don't have anything constructive to say then fck off there's a good chap.

[Mr.Whippy]

Now that the Tories are planning on passing laws to allow eavesdropping on internet, email, texting etc, I'm thinking about having the ability to surf / email anonymously. Bugger all to hide just the principle of it.

It's a bit late to be concerned about that now imo.

You think "they" haven't been eavesdropping that stuff already? I'd be amazed if "they" aren't already doing it.