MSDN Subscription

[Halcyon]

The developer software is not standard with action pack, you need to do a test on the site to acquire it - it's called the "Web Solutions Toolkit" and you can see it on that link you provided.

Ta, will have a go at that then

- already taken 3 of their bl**dy tests to get this far, it would work out cheaper to go and buy the kit at full price!

[Jaws]

The developer software is not standard with action pack, you need to do a test on the site to acquire it - it's called the "Web Solutions Toolkit" and you can see it on that link you provided.

[Halcyon]

Newbie question

Hi y'all,

I'm a newbie on this forum (hence the post count of 1), and found this thread via a search on "msdn subscription"

I am in a similar position to the OP, although I actually want to set up a little virtual network to develop a webservice integration dll for Metastorm (sticking with it you see!), I can't see on the action pack contents (here) that it contains any version of Dev Studio, and that the win 7 licence is only an upgrade which I guess wouldn't work with a new virtual machine?

I am waiting for my order to be processed (how come it takes longer for Microsoft to process an order for a download than it takes for Amazon to get an object to your door????) In the meantime I just wondered if I should carry on waiting or shell out for an MSDN sub?

[Jaws]

The comparison guide is here : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

I've read you can use the server explorer anyway in the standard edition despite what that says (not sure if that just applied to 2005 std).

[d000hg]

Ok. Wassadiffrunce?

You don't get the Team components, which I believe includes some source control - either way you don't need it unless you're doing something unusual. Std edition gives you C++, C#, VB.net including all the visual designer tools... I also got Expression tools with my AP subscription which I believe is used for Silverlight, MS' alternative to Flash.

ActionPack is very well worth it, compared to a full MSDN sub. But you can't download all the old versions of MS products IIRC - I believe MSDN subscription proper means you can download a Win98 installation CD should you wish to.

I'd strongly recommend the AP... for £200 it's practically worth it just to get a license for Windows 7.

Note, you have to take some simple tests for AP membership - multiple choice stuff you should not need to spend more than an hour on. I picked a test on a technology I'd never worked with and managed to bumble through 1st try.

[voodooflux]

Might be worth seeing if you meet the qualifying requirements for the Microsoft BizSpark program - essentially 3 years of MSDN Professional for $100.

[dx4100]

The version of Visual Studio I got with action pack did not include the mobile development projects. Same for other people ?

[suityou01]

I stand corrected. It is the std version not the professional version.

Can't find a standard version.

http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/en-gb/products/professional/default.mspx

Edit [Reason for editing : Cleaned glasses] :doh

[suityou01]

I stand corrected. It is the std version not the professional version.

Ok. Wassadiffrunce?

[DimPrawn]

I have this, although they only provided the standard version of visual studio.

I stand corrected. It is the std version not the professional version.

[suityou01]

I became a MS partner and ordered the action pack for £199. Gives you VS.NET professional, all the OS's and the server products such as SQL Server.

Not according to DP.

What's the difference?

[Jaws]

I became a MS partner and ordered the action pack for £199. Gives you VS.NET professional, all the OS's and the server products such as SQL Server.

I have this, although they only provided the standard version of visual studio.

[DimPrawn]

I became a MS partner and ordered the action pack for £199. Gives you VS.NET professional, all the OS's and the server products such as SQL Server.

[Weltchy]

You need MSDN Professional as a minimum if you want the Operating Systems, etc.

[suityou01]

I am currently working on a .Net 2005 project, after having spent many months doing BPM work using Metastorm. It's suprising how rusty you get. The rust is falling of dam quickly so the client isn't too bothered. But it has given me a kick up the a*** to do something about it.

I wanted to build some VMs, say Windows Server and install all the usual suspects, SQL Server, MOSS 2007 etc and just have test rigs to play around on to learn new skills and keep existing ones sharp.

I remember years ago the firm I was at had an MSDN subscription that had everything from operating systems to sdks, ddks, ides yada yada yada.

Now I go to the MSDN site and the variety is startling, and it doesn't categorically list what you get. Before I part with cash can someone give me a steer on this one?

TIA