Reply to: Insertions, deletions and updations

[MPwannadecentincome]

I don't mind how people talk as long as we understand each other and we are polite avoiding unnecessary swearing.

When it comes to reading business related documents I would expect to see some minimum standards - to me "updations" does not meet that minimum standard, however if it becomes widespread through general use in this country that even the Telegraph / Times / FT use it then I guess I should accept it has become the norm.

[DS23]

not the thread i wa looking for but glad i found it.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I have some sympathy with Ardesco on on this one. I've just watched "New Tricks" on Telly - it was a repeat from a while ago. A lot of the action takes place in court. There are several points at which a brief calls out "objection!" to which the judge responds "sustained" or "overruled". Anyone with the most cursory knowledge of UK courts knows this just doesn't happen here. Plainly the writers are either too immersed in US culture to know the difference or else they are trying to sell to the US. Why can't we celebrate our differences from the Septics whilst having mutual respect?

I hear loads of people using "gotten" on a regular basis, and it grates - of course no one gives a tulip what I think, but that doesn't stop me having an opinion. I like the Septics (mostly), but I don't wish to act or speak like one.

And it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't make the Brit a weasly cowardly villain any time he's allowed to speak in his own accent.

[Pogle]

I just call them deltas

[ribble]

There's specialist websites about upskirts, the japanese appear to be particularly keen.

Don't know why you're asking about it in this thread though, should be in LR

Specialist....

[dang65]

To management, "providing a solution" and "solving a problem" are not necessarily related concepts

Word.

[Spacecadet]

What about Upserts...

Dan

There's specialist websites about upskirts, the japanese appear to be particularly keen.

Don't know why you're asking about it in this thread though, should be in LR

[ribble]

What about Upserts...

Dan

[ASB]

To management, "providing a solution" and "solving a problem" are not necessarily related concepts

tulip. Another keyboard bits the dust.....

[NickFitz]

Heard another one yesterday. Some suit on the phone to the office the second we got off the plane:

"Blah blah blah... Yeah, we'll need global resources to solution this."

Presumably not familiar with the verb "to solve".

To management, "providing a solution" and "solving a problem" are not necessarily related concepts

[dang65]

Heard another one yesterday. Some suit on the phone to the office the second we got off the plane:

"Blah blah blah... Yeah, we'll need global resources to solution this."

Presumably not familiar with the verb "to solve".

[adestor]

What is to say the queen hasn't outsourced her database updates.

Updations.

And nobody mentioned selectations

[expat]

...only the most anally retentive actually give a toss.

[ThomasSoerensen]

I disagree completely. We already have one bastardised version of English (American English) out there and we do not need another!

English will evolve as time moves forward, but resisting made up words brought into the language by people who do not speak the language and bastardise it to make it easier for them is the right thing to do.

Our language is part of our national identity and we should be protecting it rather than pandering to various people who cannot be bothered to learn it correctly. I would not expect to go to a country that speaks another language and then bastardise it to make it easier for me and then expect them to conform, I would expect to be treated with contempt and derision and as far as I'm concerned this is how we should treat people that try to bring in words like updation, needful and blatant inaccuracies like "coz".

I have picked up somebody on the use of "coz" in a document before and they were surprised to find out it wasn't a real word, they had heard it said so often they thought it was the correct spelling and were quite mortified when it was explained that it did not exist. Said person no longer uses it in documents now that they know that they should really be writing because and as a result they have learnt something about our language and thier documents look a damn sight more professional.

I would suggest that people who do not care how words are spelt or grammar is presented are likely to be people who fall into one of three categories:

• Not native English speakers
• Not well educated
• Not well read

The last being the most likely, as people who are not well read have not learned to appreciate the various intricacies of well written English, and are therefore unlikely to be able to derive pleasure from well formed prose.

Wheeling out "the English language is always evolving" as an argument is feeble justification for the corruption of our mother toungue at best and a lazy trollish answer provided by somebody who cannot be bother to form a coherent argument at worst....

fixed those for you

[lilelvis2000]

"Stiff upper lip" originated in America, by-the-way so kindly desist from using it in future.

What about "innit", innit?