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AtW replied

4 January 2009, 01:28
Originally posted by VectraMan View Post

You're applauding me being right? Ta.

Flash's ActionScript is essentially JavaScript of course.

I am applauding to the chimp making a relevant comment about cookies that I had no idea about (cookies not set with file:// protocol) - your suggestion relies on Flash which I think is not that widespread on mobiles
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VectraMan replied

4 January 2009, 00:47
Originally posted by AtW View Post

You're applauding me being right? Ta.

Flash's ActionScript is essentially JavaScript of course.
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AtW replied

4 January 2009, 00:01
Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

Unless one installs a web server on the phone, the browser would be accessing the content using the file: protocol, and IE - at least on the desktop - doesn't support cookies for that protocol.

IE Mobile was formerly a different codebase to IE desktop, so it may not have had that problem; but it seems that the new version of IE Mobile is being based on the desktop IE 6 code, so it will probably have the same limitations
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NickFitz replied

3 January 2009, 20:51
Originally posted by AtW View Post

Originally posted by VectraMan View Post

Could you do a HTML/JS only app with just the client side?

Possible - just use cookies to store some variables locally?

Unless one installs a web server on the phone, the browser would be accessing the content using the file: protocol, and IE - at least on the desktop - doesn't support cookies for that protocol.

IE Mobile was formerly a different codebase to IE desktop, so it may not have had that problem; but it seems that the new version of IE Mobile is being based on the desktop IE 6 code, so it will probably have the same limitations
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Ardesco replied

3 January 2009, 19:47
Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

Your comments are often very sensible although of course I would never say so.

Originally posted by AtW View Post

Quick delete the above message before anyone sees it!

Too late!!!!!
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AtW replied

3 January 2009, 19:27
Quick delete the above message before anyone sees it!
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xoggoth replied

3 January 2009, 19:26
Your comments are often very sensible although of course I would never say so.
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AtW replied

3 January 2009, 19:24
Originally posted by xoggoth View Post

Ta for extra comments. This HTML/js sounds good as am already pretty well up on wierd uses of jscript.

You accept my suggested solution then? You'll be first on cUK...
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xoggoth replied

3 January 2009, 19:20
Ta for extra comments. This HTML/js sounds good as am already pretty well up on wierd uses of jscript.
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AtW replied

3 January 2009, 16:54
Originally posted by VectraMan View Post

Could you do a HTML/JS only app with just the client side?

Possible - just use cookies to store some variables locally?
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VectraMan replied

3 January 2009, 16:47
Originally posted by AtW View Post

Target HTML/JavaScript - mobile internet becomes popular now in the West, so browsers are available on many mobiles now - load up files locally on the phone and no need for Internet connection either.

Could you do a HTML/JS only app with just the client side? To do any kind of useful application I'd have thought you'd need a webserver to manage the state, which may not be available.

Flash Lite support:

http://www.adobe.com/mobile/supported_devices/

Which incidentally includes all Windows Mobile devices.
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AtW replied

3 January 2009, 16:34
Target HTML/JavaScript - mobile internet becomes popular now in the West, so browsers are available on many mobiles now - load up files locally on the phone and no need for Internet connection either.

Not sure how well Flash is supported in those - probably not anywhere near as well as HTML/JavaScript.
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VectraMan replied

3 January 2009, 16:32
Flash is another option; a lot of phones now have Flash players (Jesus phone aside), and has the advantage of looking the same anywhere (i.e. the same but bigger on a PC).

I didn't think Windows Mobile had taken off in any serious way either, so it would be a mistake to target a single platform when something like Flash (or Java if you really have to) can be platform independent.
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AtW replied

3 January 2009, 16:13
Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

I'll resist the temptation to make jokes about targeting kids in the park
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voodooflux replied

3 January 2009, 12:18
Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

...but I believe that no Windows CE device runs Java out of the box - MS removed it completely from their platforms for legal reasons (as in, they're not legally permitted to ship Java on anything).

I believe i-mate devices ship (or at least used to) with a JVM. Microsoft only provide the core OS to the device makers, who then add their own "stuff" via the Platform Builder.
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