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[MrMarkyMark]

30% if they micro-manage....

I have been told by many past and current clients that I'm "unmanageable".

I take this as both a compliment and bloody accurate

[BrilloPad]

10% extra for having to work with the Client Co team

30% if they micro-manage....

[eek]

You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?

Missed one

Priority support with x days reserved...

[original PM]

Ah the good old ‘I work in IT and I’m going to tell you how to run your business because I’m an expert’.

Deliver it and STFU

Interestingly I do not work in IT - we are a digital service delivery team!

But that is all about user needs and not head office wants.

[MrMarkyMark]

I would charge 20% for dealing with consultancies - it’s just not worth it. And the option of starting meeting 1 with could you explain what the feck were you thinking when doing this has already been vetoed.

[eek]

10% extra for having to work with the Client Co team

I would charge 20% for dealing with consultancies - it’s just not worth it. And the option of starting meeting 1 with could you explain what the feck were you thinking when doing this has already been vetoed.

[MrMarkyMark]

You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?

10% extra for having to work with the Client Co team

[eek]

FTFY

You are missing a trick there. I’m currently going for we can fix major issue for you but we must insist on our saas package to ensure compliance.

So that is one off fee for packaged solution with 20% annual maintenance fee
Consultancy fee (t&m) for “implementation”
Ongoing fee for automated compliance checks

Any thing else I could legimately bill someone for?

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

Me - OK, that looks at quite a large bit of work, I can supply someone to do it for you.

How does £700 PD sound?

Them -

[MarillionFan]

Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

Me - ok what are you going to do with it? How is it going to help you drive business efficiencies and what operational process are you looking to change/update to support this.

Them -

Ah the good old ‘I work in IT and I’m going to tell you how to run your business because I’m an expert’.

Deliver it and STFU

[original PM]

Works out very well for some

Yes indeed - it really grinds my gears -

Them - we need a report which shows x,y and z

Me - ok what are you going to do with it? How is it going to help you drive business efficiencies and what operational process are you looking to change/update to support this.

Them -

[MrMarkyMark]

And thats the key - we still get reporting requirements for one of the legacy systems we have had in place for ten years - to expect to be able to get exactly what you need defined upfront and for it not to change is naive i reckon.

In addition if you give people too much data and to many reports then they loose all value and if you simply give them a data warehouse with everything in then 1000's of hours will be spent creating reports nobody cares about.

Ideally you need to give people just enough to give them the info they need to do the job they need to do.....

Well that's my view anyway.

Works out very well for some

[original PM]

To design a good DW you need strong reporting requirements.

The writings of Ralf Kimball are a good place to start, with the back end design.
Some use BW for the reporting, some use other solutions, I believe IBM do one based on their DB2 database and a SAP R3 connector.

if you have massive volumes you can incorporate the hosting, of one or more components, on the SAP HANA in memory solution.

And thats the key - we still get reporting requirements for one of the legacy systems we have had in place for ten years - to expect to be able to get exactly what you need defined upfront and for it not to change is naive i reckon.

In addition if you give people too much data and to many reports then they loose all value and if you simply give them a data warehouse with everything in then 1000's of hours will be spent creating reports nobody cares about.

Ideally you need to give people just enough to give them the info they need to do the job they need to do.....

Well that's my view anyway.

[MrMarkyMark]

You've used the dirty K word the team I'm working for says is no longer necessary.

With Big Data Platforms back end design is no longer needed. Chuck it into an Hadoop/MapR data lake, chuck in some Spark, Parquet, Apache drill and unlimited nodes and it does it all for you. Piece of piss really. Who needs back end design and structure anymore?

Depends on what you are dealing with, if low integrity unstructured data then, sure, something like Hardoop is good, its also good for batch processing at great speed.

I saw and heard the same before when a large ISP I was working for bought a state of the art Netezza box, split node processing, the dogs boll*cks at the time etc..

The ISPs German guys spouted the same shizzle as your team, who obviously can't model data as they don't have the skills.
However, credit where credits due, your team do an absolutely fantastic line in the latest buzz words .

The unstructured data and structures went on.

The Netezza box shuddered to a halt shortly afterwards, what was a Ferrari turned into an Allegro at best.

Worked fine prior with all the well modeled stuff on it

[eek]

You've used the dirty K word the team I'm working for says is no longer necessary.

With Big Data Platforms back end design is no longer needed. Chuck it into an Hadoop/MapR data lake, chuck in some Spark, Parquet, Apache drill and unlimited nodes and it does it all for you. Piece of piss really. Who needs back end design and structure anymore?

People that want to know they have 100% of the data they expect and not somewhere between 60-99%