Reply to: To (BT) Infinity and beyond!

[WTFH]

PlusNet here. No complaints. I have YouView from them as well.

I switched from BT to PlusNet a few months ago. Their standard router is better than the BT ones (and smaller). Had no issues with them. They also send me a text/email monthly of my bill.

[VectraMan]

On another note anyone here uses PlusNet, seem much cheaper than BT even though it's the same company

PlusNet here. No complaints. I have YouView from them as well.

[SlipTheJab]

On another note anyone here uses PlusNet, seem much cheaper than BT even though it's the same company

[Support Monkey]

I'd avoid it just like I'd avoid underfloor heating - the cost of ripping up your driveway to fix an internet connection issue seems ridiculous.

I stand corrected, to the cabinet.

they normally mole the cables under the ground (although only just under the surface) same with gas pipe no need to dig up your front lawn, they normally only dig as a last resort

[SlipTheJab]

Cheers all, just had the drive re-done and the 'irish gentlemen' have snagged the phone line (BB is working fine) according to the Virgin guy that came out. He offered to sort it by digging up a bit of tarmac and replacing the wire, I told him no chance so taking this opportunity to move everything over to BT (currently have TV through SKY and phone/BB via Virgin) so long as no drive digging is required!

[vetran]

they have seriously considered using sewers. However that & water both cause problems where there is only one pipe and something is broken.

But as mentioned above its the exchange to cabinet that makes the most sense now in reasonably populated areas, far out of town there is no money in it so it wont be done. The vast majority of the cabinets are fed by existing tunnels and the fibre is thinner than a normal single phone cable.

[WTFH]

Why can't they use running it inside the mains water pipe to get into the house? then just a matter of installing new terminations either end to get the fibres out

You mean the copper/lead/plastic pipe with water flowing through it?


Um, no. not quite as straight forward as you imagine

[Troll]

Fibre to house will come but expect it to be expensive. Laying fibre in the ground is expensive and will be more so in urban environments. Note the subsidised costs here.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...l_M11049.html#

Why can't they use running it inside the mains water pipe to get into the house? then just a matter of installing new terminations either end to get the fibres out

[WTFH]

If you are rural (and in certain areas) you might be able to get Gigaclear | Ultrafast Fibre Broadband

[LondonManc]

the limit on old ADSL was the distance between your home & the exchange.The further way you were then the lower your speed.

What they have done is brought part of the exchange closer to you by putting the modem bit in the cabinet and laid fibre down the existing tunnels from exchange to cabinet. Now your home is 100metres from the exchange(cabinet) so you can get 80Mb. They still use your existing line for the last few yards.

Cost for this is minimal (running fibre down existing tunnels and sharing the cost between 200 or so houses) compared to running trenches to each house.

Fibre to house will come but expect it to be expensive. Laying fibre in the ground is expensive and will be more so in urban environments. Note the subsidised costs here.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...l_M11049.html#

I'd avoid it just like I'd avoid underfloor heating - the cost of ripping up your driveway to fix an internet connection issue seems ridiculous.

[vetran]

the limit on old ADSL was the distance between your home & the exchange.The further way you were then the lower your speed.

What they have done is brought part of the exchange closer to you by putting the modem bit in the cabinet and laid fibre down the existing tunnels from exchange to cabinet. Now your home is 100metres from the exchange(cabinet) so you can get 80Mb. They still use your existing line for the last few yards.

Cost for this is minimal (running fibre down existing tunnels and sharing the cost between 200 or so houses) compared to running trenches to each house.

Fibre to house will come but expect it to be expensive. Laying fibre in the ground is expensive and will be more so in urban environments. Note the subsidised costs here.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...l_M11049.html#

[VectraMan]

its fibre to the Exchange then it just goes down the same old copper cable, Virgin runs via a coax cable, having said that they are both investing heavily in Fibre to the house now but you could be talking years down the line depending on where you live

Cabinet.

There's some people think FTTC is a waste of time and they should be installing fibre everywhere, but they don't seem to realise that most people don't want their drives or streets dug up even if there was the money to pay for it all. And 80Mb is not exactly bad.

[LondonManc]

its fibre to the Exchange then it just goes down the same old copper cable, Virgin runs via a coax cable, having said that they are both investing heavily in Fibre to the house now but you could be talking years down the line depending on where you live

It's actually fibre to the cabinet then copper from the telegraph pole to your house.

STJ - no, they don't dig it up. You can also get rid of any of the ADSL filters that you have once you have it installed (Sky Fibre piggybacks on the same kit and works in the same way).

[Support Monkey]

its fibre to the Exchange then it just goes down the same old copper cable, Virgin runs via a coax cable, having said that they are both investing heavily in Fibre to the house now but you could be talking years down the line depending on where you live

[WTFH]

Does anyone here have BT Infinity BB, if so do they need to dig up your drive to install it (like Virgin do) or does it just come down the phone line as per the non-fibre BB?

Generally no, they just use your phone line.