Reply to: More linux lies

[greenlake]

I think we'd all like to welcome Mr Ballmer to the forum.

[Boo]

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon etc etc all use Linux to run their main operations, but boo thinks its crap

I wonder who's right?

Linux is sh1t. So that would be me who's right then.

Boo

[stek]

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon etc etc all use Linux to run their main operations, but boo thinks its crap


I wonder who's right?

Google run Linux on a massive HPC grid AIUI, which is fine, a node dies, there's another, but not all requirements are the same, BT Spine was almost 100% Solaris on SPARC when I was there 2006 on, latterly they used Linux for some reverse proxies I think - I went back in 2009 - all gone. We can all quote examples for and against.

By Linux do you mean the proper kernel definition or the multitude of distros like Slitaz, Bharat, Siduction, HandyLinux, Qimo for Kids and Russian Fedora Remix?

[Unix]

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon etc etc all use Linux to run their main operations, but boo thinks its crap


I wonder who's right?

[stek]

That's true of any multi vendor blame fight....

Yes but if it's say an Oracle T4 SPARC running Solaris 11 with Oracle fibre HBA (albeit rebadged) in it connected to an Oracle 7120 array with Oracle 11 DB on top, it's Oracle's problem. One vendor, no blame war...

Costs of course!

[eek]

Whilst I'm not an Open Source/Linux fan, despite the impression I've given to I'm not anti Linux, just I'm my experience it's not in the same league as the Unix variants designed to work on the same companies hardware, One Throat To Choke if things go wrong. Witness a Red Hat/Emulex/HP/Oracle slag-off-a-thon I had to deal with a few years back - all four blaming each other....

The new POWER8's will have updated versions of RHEL and Ubuntu on POWER I'm told, optimised for POWER - fantastic, looking forward to it. AIX is clunky etc, but its LVM stuff is A1, a doddle compared to Linux, hopefully IBM will have merged these things which would be nice.

That's true of any multi vendor blame fight....

[stek]

Whilst I'm not an Open Source/Linux fan, despite the impression I've given to I'm not anti Linux, just I'm my experience it's not in the same league as the Unix variants designed to work on the same companies hardware, One Throat To Choke if things go wrong. Witness a Red Hat/Emulex/HP/Oracle slag-off-a-thon I had to deal with a few years back - all four blaming each other....

The new POWER8's will have updated versions of RHEL and Ubuntu on POWER I'm told, optimised for POWER - fantastic, looking forward to it. AIX is clunky etc, but its LVM stuff is A1, a doddle compared to Linux, hopefully IBM will have merged these things which would be nice.

[Boo]

So I take it that you'll be leaving CUK seeing as it runs on (AFAIK) Ubuntu

I am fortunately not required to operate the forum software, nor to view it using a computer running Linux. If that changes then, yes, I will be off...

Boo

[darmstadt]

rant....

Boo

So I take it that you'll be leaving CUK seeing as it runs on (AFAIK) Ubuntu

[Boo]

I would rather have someone who loves to code that much that he is willing to do it in his spare time for free, than an average paid developer.

That is not in fact what happens. What Linux gives you is the chance for every no-hoper who is unable to find employment in software to commence a hopelessly impracticable project on a complete whim. The project is later abandoned when the hapless author finally succeeds in getting a job at McDonalds only to be revived a decade later by people who mistakenly believe it is a completely different project that happens to go under the same name.

When this new crew of incipient burger-flippers finally notice their mistake the project re-lapses into desuetude. At this point it is sufficiently famous to be recommended on forums as the best/only way for Linux users to achieve xxxx. Where xxxx is entirely unrelated to any of the aims of either the original or successive updaters of the project. Which, surprisingly, is in fact the case, it really is the only/best tool for job xxxx under Linux : everything else is even worse.

Linux is not just a piece of sh**, it is, like the bogs at a festival, multiple independent mountains of poo, accreted independently by thousands of people acting at random with entirely different aims in mind.

The UI is beyond poor and the implementation needs to be chucked away and completely re-written. Hopefully without the absurd fantasy that a heirachy of miscellaneous scripts can form a useful basis for an OS.

Another one that needs to be blackballed from the profession.

Yes, that's right, anyone who stands up to the Linux bandwagon needs to be expelled from the profession. Of course they do. Because otherwise there is no way that anyone could ever be duped into using the useless pile of old Tulipe.

ln -s Linux Sh1tOS

That's its name.

Boo

[Sysman]

This made me laugh....!

https://blog.udemy.com/linux-vs-unix/

Part of the reason for the high cost is that each UNIX system is custom written for the client.

[Sysman]

So they rewrote every line of the Linux Kernel and every driver so ensure there was no code left written by non paid devs?

No I didn't say that at all.

[stek]

This made me laugh....!

https://blog.udemy.com/linux-vs-unix/

[Unix]

Those are of course developed and run by folks who get paid to do it.

So they rewrote every line of the Linux Kernel and every driver so ensure there was no code left written by non paid devs?

I would rather have someone who loves to code that much that he is willing to do it in his spare time for free, than an average paid developer.

Another one that needs to be blackballed from the profession.

[Sysman]

Are you talking about the same Linux that is used on most supercomputers, most of the top 20 websites servers and 90% of smartphones?

Those are of course developed and run by folks who get paid to do it.