Reply to: Phil Manley MIA

[cojak]

Please close this thread. It's just a witch hunt against Phil Manley and serves no real purpose except to slag him off.

I repeat, Manley has done some sterling work helping people against HMRC. He's probably taken on too much and cracked under the strain, not to mention, the persecution of 'one of their own' by HMRC who in their view, turned to their dark side.

I agree, but only because it serves no purpose. I have no sympathy for someone who did a bunk on the day of reckoning for his clients - he could have handed it over to someone else if he knew he was ill.

Thread closed.

Edit: and if you want the latest on this - fill yer boots...
Tax inspector Phil Manley who backed avoidance scheme disappears | Money | The Times

[TheDogsNads]

We have looked into this and I repeat (for the last time).

Phil Manley's PMTC LTD (Company number 12007123) and PM Tax Consulting Limited (Company number 11372173) are two separate unconnected companies.

He just wrote that name on his invoices because of sloppy admin.

If I have to repeat myself again the whole post will be removed...

Please close this thread. It's just a witch hunt against Phil Manley and serves no real purpose except to slag him off.

I repeat, Manley has done some sterling work helping people against HMRC. He's probably taken on too much and cracked under the strain, not to mention, the persecution of 'one of their own' by HMRC who in their view, turned to their dark side.

[LOL17]

Actually all the evidence was that you were hoping other people would do that and I was making sure that they couldn't. Otherwise why would you have been making the insinuations that you were making..

Now unless you have anything of value beyond false rumours, false allegations and innuendos could you kindly go elsewhere to spread your unfounded allegations as I really don't think you are helping.

At the moment webberg's advice is all that is required - If you were using Phil Manley for advice tell HMRC ASAP what has happened and they will give you some leeway....

You can read minds now can you and tell me I was hoping for. You should join the circus with that act ?

[LOL17]

You have much more faith in MPs than I have.

We spent three years badgering MPs, getting questions asked at the highest levels, briefing committees, appearing in committees and the result was - HM Treasury are just too powerful.

We stopped doing that and turned to litigation.

LCAG took up the political baton and to their credit made great strides on the question of loan charge if not the proper analysis around the liabilities in the year of payment.

We see evidence of MP involvement at an individual client level quite regularly. Usually consists of "a letter to my friend, Jesse", the usual drivel and nonsense in response, much of which has been shown to be inaccurate press statements from HMRC, and the MP saying "I've done all I can". The next letter to the MP gets passed to a researcher with even less time and understanding than the MP.

Claims that MPs involvement have led to "better" time to pay agreements turn out, on proper examination, to be no better than HMRC published terms.

I can say that the difference an MP has made to one of our clients, I can count in one hand (and still have change).

In my experience MP are a bit of a mixed bag. There are a few good ones, lots of mediocre ones and then you have the likes of Emily Thornberry. I think politically LCAG might have been more successful if it hadn’t been for BREXIT and then COVID but we are where we are.

[cojak]

We have looked into this and I repeat (for the last time).

Phil Manley's PMTC LTD (Company number 12007123) and PM Tax Consulting Limited (Company number 11372173) are two separate unconnected companies.

He just wrote that name on his invoices because of sloppy admin.

If I have to repeat myself again the whole post will be removed...

[webberg]

I’d also suggest getting in contact with their MP as some MP have been decent in helping constituents with HMRC. It could help people buy a bit more time to sort something out with HMRC.

You have much more faith in MPs than I have.

We spent three years badgering MPs, getting questions asked at the highest levels, briefing committees, appearing in committees and the result was - HM Treasury are just too powerful.

We stopped doing that and turned to litigation.

LCAG took up the political baton and to their credit made great strides on the question of loan charge if not the proper analysis around the liabilities in the year of payment.

We see evidence of MP involvement at an individual client level quite regularly. Usually consists of "a letter to my friend, Jesse", the usual drivel and nonsense in response, much of which has been shown to be inaccurate press statements from HMRC, and the MP saying "I've done all I can". The next letter to the MP gets passed to a researcher with even less time and understanding than the MP.

Claims that MPs involvement have led to "better" time to pay agreements turn out, on proper examination, to be no better than HMRC published terms.

I can say that the difference an MP has made to one of our clients, I can count in one hand (and still have change).

[eek]

As I thought. At no point did I mention fraud at all I did was ask if something was a coincidence and you’ve put 2 and 2 together to get 5. Slow clap.

Actually all the evidence was that you were hoping other people would do that and I was making sure that they couldn't. Otherwise why would you have been making the insinuations that you were making..

Now unless you have anything of value beyond false rumours, false allegations and innuendos could you kindly go elsewhere to spread your unfounded allegations as I really don't think you are helping.

At the moment webberg's advice is all that is required - If you were using Phil Manley for advice tell HMRC ASAP what has happened and they will give you some leeway....

[LOL17]

Bored now.

Perhaps the issues here are being lost in the teacup storm?

We are slowly piecing together a picture of where some of the clients Phil was helping are, in terms of agreement (or otherwise) with HMRC.

We would strongly recommend any such persons who have not settled or who are unsure of their situation - contact HMRC and advise them that they require some time to investigate and resolve the position.

I’d also suggest getting in contact with their MP as some MP have been decent in helping constituents with HMRC. It could help people buy a bit more time to sort something out with HMRC.

[LOL17]

For the hundredth time you posted




and



Which has required 2 separate moderators to edit your posts to correct the allegations you were trying to make.

As I thought. At no point did I mention fraud at all I did was ask if something was a coincidence and you’ve put 2 and 2 together to get 5. Slow clap.

[webberg]

Bored now.

Perhaps the issues here are being lost in the teacup storm?

We are slowly piecing together a picture of where some of the clients Phil was helping are, in terms of agreement (or otherwise) with HMRC.

We would strongly recommend any such persons who have not settled or who are unsure of their situation - contact HMRC and advise them that they require some time to investigate and resolve the position.

[eek]

Did I accuse an innocent 3rd party of fraud? When did I mention fraud full stop? Maybe you should **** off elsewhere instead of poking your nose in.

For the hundredth time you posted

2) Do you think it's a coincidence that the director of PM Tax Consulting, <mod snip: not Phil Manley> is also usually resident in Portugal and that the company was dissolved the day before the Loan Charge deadline?

Mod Note: Phil Manley's PMTC LTD (Company number 12007123) and PM Tax Consulting Limited (Company number 11372173) are two separate unconnected companies.

He just wrote that name on his invoices because of sloppy admin.

and

It’s not much of a jump when Phil states that as his company name on communications to his clients.

Mod Note: Phil Manley's PMTC LTD (Company number 12007123) and PM Tax Consulting Limited (Company number 11372173) are two separate unconnected companies.

He just wrote that name on his invoices because of sloppy admin.

Which has required 2 separate moderators to edit your posts to correct the allegations you were trying to make.

[LOL17]

I don't accuse innocent 3rd parties of commiting fraud which is what you have done. Just apologize and take your unfounded allegations elsewhere. Or just go elsewhere...

Did I accuse an innocent 3rd party of fraud? When did I mention fraud full stop? Maybe you should **** off elsewhere instead of poking your nose in.

[eek]

You need to get a new hobby, maybe then you won’t be so bored. You’re really making more of this than you to, are you Phil or just one of his clients who still has the blinkers on?

I don't accuse innocent 3rd parties of commiting fraud which is what you have done. Just apologize and take your unfounded allegations elsewhere. Or just go elsewhere...

[LOL17]

Shall we look at your post for the third time



In there you are saying that the director of PM Tax Consulting (a company that has nothing to do with Phil Manley) lives in Portugal - she doesn't and is definitely an Italian living in London.

You need to get a new hobby, maybe then you won’t be so bored. You’re really making more of this than you to, are you Phil or just one of his clients who still has the blinkers on?

[eek]

Had to waste time? Who held a gun to your head and made you do it?

Who is this someone to who you’re referring about being in Portugal who isn’t? Phil has previously spoken of living in Lisbon as it’s almost as quick to get from there to Manchester as from London to Manchester.

Shall we look at your post for the third time

1) The line to PM Tax Resolution LLP was shared back in post #16.

2) Do you think it's a coincidence that the director of PM Tax Consulting, <mod snip: not Phil Manley> is also usually resident in Portugal and that the company was dissolved the day before the Loan Charge deadline?

Mod Note: Phil Manley's PMTC LTD (Company number 12007123) and PM Tax Consulting Limited (Company number 11372173) are two separate unconnected companies.

He just wrote that name on his invoices because of sloppy admin.

In there you are saying that the director of PM Tax Consulting (a company that has nothing to do with Phil Manley) lives in Portugal - she doesn't and is definitely an Italian living in London.