Reply to: IR35 Investigations. HMRC has its new 'avoiders'.

[cojak]

I guess we'll soon see the ambulance chasers on this too - having moved on from Schemes they'll be offering 'bespoke' solutions to IR35 investigations and Ir35 compliance.

Oh yes, I’m sure we will.

<flexes banhammer>

Oh, also FAOD, if I recognise ANY names trolling up here, I will add a flaming spike of FOAD to my ban.

[mudskipper]

Had a brief chat with a contact at QDOS a week or so ago, and agree with this. If you've already got one of those letters, it's too late to get insurance. They will however help on a £/hour basis.

IPSE will still provide cover -

The aggressive HMRC letters to GSK contractors – IPSE explainer | IPSE

"If you are not currently a member and join IPSE now, we will be able to offer advice and guidance on this. We may not be able to provide the same level of guidance once an investigation has been already opened."

IPSE do not consider that these letters constitute a compliance check or investigation.

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[northernladuk]

- You have not been subject to a VAT, PAYE or NIC inspection and/or an HMRC enquiry into your self-assessment tax return (personal and/or corporate) in the last three years.

But surely the letters is an opening salvo and you are on their radar which would fail this. Maybe not to the letter but they are still under the cosh so paying 250 quid for insurance when it's guaranteed QDOS are going to spend money on their case is a tad unacceptable.

Must be manic at the QDOS offices. Apart from the fact the new business team will be working flat out, they've got to position themselves right here. They could lead from the front and represent all GSK contractors so they can wave the flag and said they did it which would be great for their company image but... if they do it for GSK they are going to have to think what to do for all the next companies and potentially end up with a very large millstone hanging round their necks just by grabbing a bit of limelight.

There is also the fact that long standing customers like myself will be f**king livid if they start spending my money on people that just bought insurance because they've been caught out.

Gonna be some deep thinking going on over there I think.

[Andy123]

Had a brief chat with a contact at QDOS a week or so ago, and agree with this. If you've already got one of those letters, it's too late to get insurance. They will however help on a £/hour basis.

Not so sure about them refusing to insure GSK contractors who have received the non-enquiry letter. The statements referred to in earlier post are as follows and lifted directly from QDOS website:

STATEMENTS

- You have not been subject to a VAT, PAYE or NIC inspection and/or an HMRC enquiry into your self-assessment tax return (personal and/or corporate) in the last three years.

You are able to exercise a Right of Substitution

- You have autonomy over your method of work and are not subject to the same level of supervision or control as your clients’ employees.

- Your company currently carries, or you will look to purchase business insurances, such as Professional Indemnity, Employers/Public Liability.

- You are not aware of any discrepancies between your company’s contract with your agency and your agency’s contract with your end client.

- You have not been employed directly by any of your clients in the 12 months prior to commencing work under a contract for services.

[Delendog]

Had a brief chat with a contact at QDOS a week or so ago, and agree with this. If you've already got one of those letters, it's too late to get insurance. They will however help on a £/hour basis.

It would be wise to get insurance now. Remember when Treasury was talking about IR35 and 2020 Stride said that people would not be looked at retrospectively. So now it looks as if they are going after people before April 2020 I am sure GSK will be the 1st of many. Treasury/HMRC acting with normal deceit.

[Maslins]

I would say that pretty much rules out GSK guys getting the insurance after the letter unless QDOS can advise otherwise on this thread.

Had a brief chat with a contact at QDOS a week or so ago, and agree with this. If you've already got one of those letters, it's too late to get insurance. They will however help on a £/hour basis.

[jbryce]

Already out in force on twitter.

Maty Hall perchance?

[Invisiblehand]

And I'm sure they'll all be "HMRC complaint solutions" and have "QC backed" opinions!!

Some of the scheme sellers are now positioning themselves as IR35 experts. It's ridiculous.

[Dmac]

Complaint solutions sounds about right.

Freudian slip!!

[LadyPenelope]

And I'm sure they'll all be "HMRC complaint solutions" and have "QC backed" opinions!!

Complaint solutions sounds about right.

[Dmac]

Already out in force on twitter.

And I'm sure they'll all be "HMRC complaint solutions" and have "QC backed" opinions!!

[Invisiblehand]

I guess we'll soon see the ambulance chasers on this too - having moved on from Schemes they'll be offering 'bespoke' solutions to IR35 investigations and Ir35 compliance.

Already out in force on twitter.

[Dmac]

Contractor insurance

When you go through the online purchase process for QDOS TLC35, you have to tick a box to agree to six statements. One is that you have not had an IR35 enquiry in the last 3 years. Another statement is that you do not know of any possibly upcoming enquiries. I haven’t used the exact wording but you get the picture.

I would say that pretty much rules out GSK guys getting the insurance after the letter unless QDOS can advise otherwise on this thread.

P.s QDOS don’t require a contract review and pass for you to qualify and buy the TLC35. The insurance includes unlimited contract IR35 assessments so you could get that done later.

Think I'm gonna invest in some QDOS shares!

[CompoundOverload]

When you go through the online purchase process for QDOS TLC35, you have to tick a box to agree to six statements. One is that you have not had an IR35 enquiry in the last 3 years. Another statement is that you do not know of any possibly upcoming enquiries. I haven’t used the exact wording but you get the picture.

I would say that pretty much rules out GSK guys getting the insurance after the letter unless QDOS can advise otherwise on this thread.

P.s QDOS don’t require a contract review and pass for you to qualify and buy the TLC35. The insurance includes unlimited contract IR35 assessments so you could get that done later.

I had a chat with them recently regarding this. Yes, before taking out the insurance you have to agree to their policy statements. It's also of use to have your contract reviewed too. Assuming a pass (would also help support the insurance and your case) would be beneficial. they did confirm that the claims team does a prospect of success review before determining whether to take on your case.

[LoanCharged]

As I vaguely recall last time I renewed with QDOS I don't think they ask to see the contract to get the insurance - though probably small print that protects them i.e. if your contract is mince then they won't help you etc

I'm sure it covers historically as such though.

When you go through the online purchase process for QDOS TLC35, you have to tick a box to agree to six statements. One is that you have not had an IR35 enquiry in the last 3 years. Another statement is that you do not know of any possibly upcoming enquiries. I haven’t used the exact wording but you get the picture.

I would say that pretty much rules out GSK guys getting the insurance after the letter unless QDOS can advise otherwise on this thread.

P.s QDOS don’t require a contract review and pass for you to qualify and buy the TLC35. The insurance includes unlimited contract IR35 assessments so you could get that done later.