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[dammit chloe]

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[Fred Bloggs]

Hey, I'm not doubting hoe much the LCAG is doing. Hats off to you.

What I am sceptical of is a tax adviser who picked up a lot of clients from here acting like a petulant child on twitter, calling people names is so far from professional. On top of that, flogging a new scheme is unforgivable and incredibly naive in my book.

^^^^ With gold plated knobs. A scheme to fix a scheme? Come on now, QC opinions, what could possibly go wrong etc......... Remember where you heard it last time. Will we have scheme Mark 3 to fix the second scheme that failed to fix the first scheme then? It it wasn't so serious,it'd be funny.

[Invisiblehand]

A debate on the Loan Charge has been secured In the House Of Commons on 4th April.

More progress, more pressure.

All down to LCAG and the Loan Charge APPG who have been working tirelessly alongside hundreds who do what they can by tweeting, commenting on boards like this and visiting MPs ( some are still unaware of it, unbelievable ).


Some useful info before the Loan Charge APPG report comes out.

http://www.loanchargeappg.co.uk/wp-c...ng-meeting.pdf


Loan Charge APPG on Twitter: "We are delighted that the #LoanChargeAPPG have secured a debate on the #LoanCharge in the @HouseofCommons (main chamber) next Thursday 4 April. Thanks to the @CommonsBBCom for allocating this, a chance to expose the #LoanChargeScandal @EdwardJDavey… https://t.co/4Nf3bxdvWO"

Hey, I'm not doubting hoe much the LCAG is doing. Hats off to you.

What I am sceptical of is a tax adviser who picked up a lot of clients from here acting like a petulant child on twitter, calling people names is so far from professional. On top of that, flogging a new scheme is unforgivable and incredibly naive in my book.

[dammit chloe]

Bumpin

Bumping.

Lot's happening this week.

Please help in any way you can join, protest or tweet.

[dammit chloe]

A debate on the Loan Charge has been secured In the House Of Commons on 4th April.

More progress, more pressure.

All down to LCAG and the Loan Charge APPG who have been working tirelessly alongside hundreds who do what they can by tweeting, commenting on boards like this and visiting MPs ( some are still unaware of it, unbelievable ).


Some useful info before the Loan Charge APPG report comes out.

http://www.loanchargeappg.co.uk/wp-c...ng-meeting.pdf


Loan Charge APPG on Twitter: "We are delighted that the #LoanChargeAPPG have secured a debate on the #LoanCharge in the @HouseofCommons (main chamber) next Thursday 4 April. Thanks to the @CommonsBBCom for allocating this, a chance to expose the #LoanChargeScandal @EdwardJDavey… https://t.co/4Nf3bxdvWO"

[Invisiblehand]

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We need people to lobby MPs.

This being the case, I'm sure the fact that your lead tax professional insulting Mel Stride around ten times a day for the last few months is really doing wonders.

[EBTContractor]

Anyone know when the APPG is due to publish its report into the LC?

By 30 March.

[dammit chloe]

Very soon.

[Centrick]

APPG

Anyone know when the APPG is due to publish its report into the LC?

[dammit chloe]

Is it known why Clive Lewis and Thelma Walker withdrew their support?

Clive Lewis is still supportive from what we can tell. He unsigned quite a while ago now when EDM was around the 90 mark. Suspect he was unsure on party groupthink.

Thelma Walker we think is because she become PPS to John McDonnell or something like that. No further knowledge on that one.

[Centrick]

EDMs .....ours wasn't singled out by John Hayes and still supportive as far as I understand.

Is it known why Clive Lewis and Thelma Walker withdrew their support?

[dammit chloe]

This doesn't compute with me? Surely, even if John Hayes thinks EDMs are useful, well-supported EDMs (i.e. in terms of numbers who sign them) do at least alert the Government to the extent of argument against the 209 Loan Charge - else why should we get excited as the tally of MPs rises?

Many MPs don't like EDMs and I can understand why. They are abused with nonsense ones that are pure virtue signalling or self-congratulatory. SNP in particular like to do this. As I say ours wasn't singled out by John Hayes and still supportive as far as I understand.

Maybe the first reason I gave was the one ( he was knighted around the same time coincidentally ). We don't know for sure.

In our case the EDM is useful because it is about changing a policy. it is also why MPs are more hesitant to sign as it actually means something. So for us it is a good visual marker of growing cross party support. It is where the original proposers deserve kudos. It is not one that will draw immediate widespread support as it mentions "tax avoidance".

So good for visibility and growing support. Enough on that, enough on the APPG and a debate could be forced. Who knows. I am no expert on how Westminster really works.

[Centrick]

...speculations. ....he lost faith in the use of EDMs as useful tool for anything. The latter seems to be held more likely these days.

This doesn't compute with me? Surely, even if John Hayes thinks EDMs aren't useful, well-supported EDMs (i.e. in terms of numbers who sign them) do at least alert the Government to the extent of argument against the 2019 Loan Charge - else why should we get excited by a rising tally of MPs supporting the EDM? Confused.....

Also, is it known why Clive Lewis and Thelma Walker withdrew their support?

[dammit chloe]

I watched the Westminster Hall debate (October 2018?) and was really encouraged by how many MPs spoke with passion against the diabolical 2019 Loan Charge. However, I have just noticed that John Hayes, who came across as a really strong supported, for some reason withdrew his support for EDM #1239 in December 2018. Any idea why he did that?

It is not that he has changed his view we understand, he still opposes it. I think he removed his name from all EDMs at the time. There are two possible speculations. First is that he was being lined up for a government post and they can't sign EDMs, the other that he lost faith in the use of EDMs as useful tool for anything. The latter seems to be held more likely these days.

[Centrick]

An EDM to make the LC prospective which has now got 140 odd MPs of all parties signing it.

I watched the Westminster Hall debate (November 2018?) and was really encouraged by how many MPs spoke with passion against the diabolical 2019 Loan Charge. However, I have just noticed that John Hayes, who came across as a really strong supporter, for some reason withdrew his support for EDM #1239 in December 2018. Any idea why he did that?