IQ Contracts/ Darwin/ Winchester contact

[webberg]

I still have my timesheets and can work out what my loan was, however IQ also paid my expenses back through the loan and wouldn’t separate them, so I’m going to get stung for that too I guess. 😞

HMRC are likely to accept any reasonable estimate.

[Volks]

I still have my timesheets and can work out what my loan was, however IQ also paid my expenses back through the loan and wouldn’t separate them, so I’m going to get stung for that too I guess. 😞

[BankingContract0r]

Why?

If you have "better" information and can prove it, why would you be bothered by what the trust says.

If the aim is to give or allow HMRC to use a value you know to be incorrect, that is very dangerous ground.

At the moment, if you do want verification then it looks like THL is your only option.

I am slowly moving from denial, disbelief and despair to acceptance and trying to rationalise an approach to moving forward.

A part of which is to understand what liability I would have outstanding post settlement with HMRC – something I admit to burying my head in sand about until now. Ideally I would like to have all of this information before finalising my decision to settle - which may also mean taking legal advice.

Everything about the people involved in these schemes, from the trusts to the grave diggers wanting to profit from holding information shows they have no empathy.

[webberg]

I have this information from my bank but I am also keen to understand what information the trust holds/ has declared to HMRC. Just trying to be forearmed with all the information as part of a settlement.

Why?

If you have "better" information and can prove it, why would you be bothered by what the trust says.

If the aim is to give or allow HMRC to use a value you know to be incorrect, that is very dangerous ground.

At the moment, if you do want verification then it looks like THL is your only option.

[BankingContract0r]

Your best bet is to get your personal bank statements and work it out from them

The loan will be a separate transaction to any salary, etc, that they might have paid you, and probably from a different bank account.

I have this information from my bank but I am also keen to understand what information the trust holds/ has declared to HMRC. Just trying to be forearmed with all the information as part of a settlement.

[WTFH]

Just had this from Bakertilly:



All I want is my loan amount!!!

Your best bet is to get your personal bank statements and work it out from them

The loan will be a separate transaction to any salary, etc, that they might have paid you, and probably from a different bank account.

[BankingContract0r]

Just had this from Bakertilly:

Dear Sir / Madam.

If you have been employed by a previous Payroll Service and you have outstanding questions, then
we must direct you to Helpline Services Limited ([email protected]) (“THL”).

THL have been appointed by all the Trustees of the Trusts, where any outstanding Employee Benefit
Trust loans or other loans are owed (the “Loans”) and by all the former employers (the “Entities”).
THL will be able to assist you with your enquiries.

THL have all the books and records for the Entities and access to all the Trust records so they have all
the information to hand to answer your questions, regarding:

1. Status of outstanding Loans (they can provide a Loan Statement for you),
2. The potential impact of HMRC’s “2019 Loan Charge” legislation,
3. Questions regarding Accelerated Payment Notifications (APN’s) that you might have,
4. Those who have settled with HMRC and require a “Deed of Release” from the Trustees,
5. Those who are considering settling with HMRC,
6. Those who wish to repay their loans,
7. Those wishing to consider their options where they can’t afford 5 or 6 above, and
8. Any other questions you might have.

THL are equipped to engage with you, but to do so they will require some basic KYC documentation
(Know Your Customer, such as copy of your Passport and proof of address) from you, so that they
can confirm your identity and match you to the records held by them.

THL can be contacted via email at [email protected]
Baker Tilly have appointed THL to administrate the process of communication (under contract) and
they will answer any of the above questions you might have.

Regards,
Baker Tilly

All I want is my loan amount!!!

[bmflex]

Any luck here?

Any luck getting a contact? I was using Darwin Pay from 2010 to 2011 and I cannot seem to find a contact anywhere to request loan amounts. HSBC only seem to provide statement access online back to 2012.

[BankingContract0r]

Contact Us - Baker Tilly Isle of Man

Thanks!

I just called. The person who answered didn't seem to understand anything I was asking for. He took my email and said would 'pass it on to the relevant person'.

https://www.winchesterlimited.co.uk/ is the only other website I could find which works. Phone number has no answer. I can't be sure it's the same Winchester either.

[WTFH]

Contact Us - Baker Tilly Isle of Man

Um, on that page they mention ECS.

Would that be the same ECS that is linked to over 160 entities in the Panama Papers?

But the building they have in the IoM must be very big as it appears over 20 times as an address in the Panama Papers as well.

[webberg]

Contact Us - Baker Tilly Isle of Man

[BankingContract0r]

The Douglas address is Baker Tilly. One of their companies was acting as trustee on some schemes.

I think that their website has a "contact us" link?

None of the website links I've seen quoted on the forum work for me.

Do they still have active websites? Would you mind sharing the link please?

[webberg]

Has anyone who was with IQ Contracts/ Darwin/ Winchester been able to contact the trust to get a total loan amount?

Agreements show the following but I have been unable to get any contact details.

• 2012 - IQ CONTRACTS of 2a Lord Street, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM99 1HP
• 2013 - IQ Settlement of 2a Lord Steet, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM99 1RH
• 2014 - IQ (UK) Settlement of Warwick Mill Business Centre, Warwick Bridge, Carlisle, Cumbria, CA4 8RR

The Douglas address is Baker Tilly. One of their companies was acting as trustee on some schemes.

I think that their website has a "contact us" link?

[cojak]

Have a look at this thread
https://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc...ection-9a.html

And this one
https://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc...arwin-pay.html

There might be posters still around who can help.

[BankingContract0r]

Has anyone who was with IQ Contracts/ Darwin/ Winchester been able to contact the trust to get a total loan amount?

Agreements show the following but I have been unable to get any contact details.

• 2012 - IQ CONTRACTS of 2a Lord Street, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM99 1HP
• 2013 - IQ Settlement of 2a Lord Steet, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM99 1RH
• 2014 - IQ (UK) Settlement of Warwick Mill Business Centre, Warwick Bridge, Carlisle, Cumbria, CA4 8RR